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you can train and train and spar. but. if your mind, spirit isn't set so that you're untouchable, you're going to bite the dust.

no one technique is superior to the other when two people (or more) go toe to toe. if you train mma, that is to say e.g. bjj, muay thai etc.. one gots tools in one's toolbox and redefined reflexes and SPIRIT to enjoy a good fight.
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Sure, that's what I said.

But 5 skinheads on one dude isn't a "good fight" is it?

No denying, as I've not denied, and agree with, that MMA training will equip a person well to mix it up a bit, give them a better idea that most "traditional" (in quotes as I know some folks that do traditional arts with traditional training that I in now way want to fight with) schools will impart to their students. I also agree, as I also stated, that mindset is the most crucial factor in a fight (as opposed to awareness, the most crucial factor prior to a fight).

But I don't see that as being self-defense except in that the resulting fighting spirit may significantly lower your odds of being selected as a victim.
 
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In the picture above are two Chute Boxe fighters.
In front is Muy Thai specialist, "The ax murderer" Vanderlei Silva and holding him from behind is Mauricio "Shogun" Rua.

Shogun loves the bum ?




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five skinheads surround you outside of the roadhouse: what do you do?


How'd that happen? I mean the surrounding you part?

Did you see them coming? Could you go back inside the bar? Why did they surround *you* (instead of some other dude)? How rapidly did that happen? Was there any verbal interaction?

Of course you can't take all these things in to account in all cases, hell, maybe you were drinking\drunk yourself, that'll fuck with awareness, martial arts skills, clear thinking.

And...they didn't kill you (thank goodness) but...did you fight back? Would that have helped or just pissed them off more?

It's always a case of "It depends". Always.


yes, me was drunk. we was barhopping in joensuu, me and my gypsy friend texi, and the skinheads got obviously exited about texi and a stare down contest followed.

texi stared down the skinhead confronting him. he had to make amends, so he stole my shades from the top of my head and ran to the street from the stairwell where the stare down took place other skinheads following his lead.

texi had the good sense to leave it be and enter the club. my shades were worth 5€. i, on the other hand took it as an insult, which is was. if i've been sober, i would've let the asshole keep the trinket, but i ran after them to the street and grabbed the guy abd my shades and the rest is history..

a lesson learned. me wasn't looking for a fight. just was drunk enough to think that i could take on five skinheads simultanously.

iq of a cactus (don't intend to offend cactuses) and concentrationspan of a housefly.

i agree with you on the mindset. that is the alpha and the omega.


~Alcohol's supposed to kill braincells. So how come there's more voices in my head the more I drink~
 
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In the picture above are two Chute Boxe fighters.
In front is Muy Thai specialist, "The ax murderer" Vanderlei Silva and holding him from behind is Mauricio "Shogun" Rua.

Shogun loves the bum ?


in finland prisonsystem there's a saying: "he who penetrate, ain't gay."


~Alcohol's supposed to kill braincells. So how come there's more voices in my head the more I drink~
 
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in finland prisonsystem there's a saying: "he who penetrate, ain't gay."


in my house there's a saying: "Dressing up in ladies undergarments isn't just for women."
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love the contrast between hairy legs and pink thongs.

have to go lingerie shopping myself.


~Alcohol's supposed to kill braincells. So how come there's more voices in my head the more I drink~
 
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I love that one. Particularly, as the Villian indicates, it's funnier if you know who they are. Particularly if you've ever seen a Silva fight, he maddogs like a...uh..Axe Murderer?
 
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five skinheads surround you outside of the roadhouse: what do you do?


How'd that happen? I mean the surrounding you part?

Did you see them coming? Could you go back inside the bar? Why did they surround *you* (instead of some other dude)? How rapidly did that happen? Was there any verbal interaction?

Of course you can't take all these things in to account in all cases, hell, maybe you were drinking\drunk yourself, that'll fuck with awareness, martial arts skills, clear thinking.

And...they didn't kill you (thank goodness) but...did you fight back? Would that have helped or just pissed them off more?

It's always a case of "It depends". Always.


yes, me was drunk. we was barhopping in joensuu, me and my gypsy friend texi, and the skinheads got obviously exited about texi and a stare down contest followed.

texi stared down the skinhead confronting him. he had to make amends, so he stole my shades from the top of my head and ran to the street from the stairwell where the stare down took place other skinheads following his lead.

texi had the good sense to leave it be and enter the club. my shades were worth 5€. i, on the other hand took it as an insult, which is was. if i've been sober, i would've let the asshole keep the trinket, but i ran after them to the street and grabbed the guy abd my shades and the rest is history..

a lesson learned. me wasn't looking for a fight. just was drunk enough to think that i could take on five skinheads simultanously.

iq of a cactus (don't intend to offend cactuses) and concentrationspan of a housefly.

i agree with you on the mindset. that is the alpha and the omega.


Thanks for the additional details Buell. Fascinating stuff. I'm very glad you came out of it alive and (relatively) unharmed (you know, not crippled for life or what have you).

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no worries,
in the spirit of macho bullshit bravado let me tell you it takes lots and lots of more skinheads or wildboars or whatever to incapacitate me.

that night, i got up when i came to, went into the clubs mens room (i knew the bouncers on a first name basis), wiped away the blood, continued drinking, scored pussy, didn't ejaculate and went to doctors next day.

siberia is the harshest teacher there is, but also most qualified, as the saying goes

and yes i know, i'm an asshole. but a handsome one


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Former UFC champion Evan Tanner dead at 37. Fighter's body is recovered after reported missing on solo camping trip.





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If nothing else I'm saddened a beard of that quality will no longer be in this world.
 
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