And since we're working in RealTime here, I'll go ahead and give you a heads up electrik dragon, that I'm going to bed and will follow up late tomorrow morning when I have some substantial time free for the first time all week.

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Originally posted by hurtstotouchfire:
They're in what's supposedly .wav format. Nero is claiming that the format can't be burned to a cd... Am I just mixing up my facts here? I thought you could totally burn wavs to a cd. So if that's not doable, what's some good software to translate audio formats?

Incidentally, I'm not certain if I can play the wav files on my computer.

1) Yeah, wav is a standard audio format that's been around for yonks. Been around since Win 3.1 at least, and is handled by pretty much every every media player out there, including Quicktime and the simply evil Realplayer (I'd suggest everyone to stop using this and get an alternative). It's high quality, and therefore the file sizes are fairly huge - a coupla meg a minute, at least.

Anyhoo, I'm getting preachy again.

My point being, is that Nero (being one of the premier burning suites out there) should simply have to support it. Most burning apps (including the 'Burn to Audio CD' used by programs like Media Player and Winamp) will:

1) See what files you want to burn.
2) Look to see if you have the Codec needed to play them back.
3) Use said codecs to convert the audio files into CDDA.
4) Burn it as audio.

Even WinXP has a "Burn as Audio" function in its rudimentary burning software.

Try another burning app. Burn4Free is great and what I use (no correlation there...). Hasn't failed me yet. NB: The latest version of Burn4Free ships with a piece of webjacker spyware you have to install with B4F. Don't worry, you can uninstall later.

For finding the right codec needed to play back the video, try CodecFinder

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hmm... can't remember in windows... isn't there a sound editor application, you should be able to open the wave files and see if there is actually sound in them (visually inspecting for waveforms), perhaps you could do a save as and just resave them as wave files (sounds redundant but it might strip out any funky shit the camera is adding to header portions of the file, could be why your burner software is being finicky)

the main problem could probably be your software is expecting english, if the camera is producing japanese when it saves wave files inside the data, it could mess up the bitstream. i don't see why it would have been engineered that way but, hey it ain't a perfect world and obviously somethign is fucked somehow, so why not blame it on them? you need to teach your computer and camera to communicate better

pedantic geek: electrik dragon, 'mp3' is actually mpeg1, layer 3 audio, rather than mpeg3.

As you were.

Does iTunes for Windows allow burning? 'Cause on the Mac you can just choose an audio format--audio cd, mp3 cd, or data cd and basically throw what you want into a playlist, throw a cd in the drive and click burn. So if iTunes for Windows does burning, that might be a very simple/free option...

I get the feeling that there's a much larger issue going on here, and it may have something to do with

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2) Look to see if you have the Codec needed to play them back.

Because I seem to be having all kinds of audio trouble with my computer. It's getting to the point that I will soon be more than willing to pay a geek to come look at this.

I'm trying to play the wav just to check if it's warped or anything, right? I used to play things on my computer, by piping through my stereo, but I have since replaced the mobo and proc, so I have no idea what's going on anymore. Anyway, I go to play the wav file, and it won't play in windows media player. WMP tries to go online to get the "decompressor" for the file format. Fucked if I know what that means, but anyhow at that point it's getting stopped because apparently my browser settings do not allow the decompressor to be installed. Not sure what all that is. It wants me to lower my security settings for the internet zone to medium or lower. Pushy little program... IE is set to Medium-low and Moz is... well, Moz, and I tried setting ZoneAlarm's internet zone security to medium and it's still bitching, and frankly security zones are not getting any lower thankyou. Ultraplayer can't play wavs either and I relaly don't think that's normal. I think they both should play wavs.

Anyway, so the larger issue is that I don't seem able to play sounds at all. If I try to go to the sound panel where you can play the system sounds, the play option is greyed out, and I can't find my system volume control anywhere.

I think it may be professional time.

hurtstotouchfire is the only member of the wgb that could start a thread with this title, and have it remain charmacarmacat-post-free.

Windows Media sucks.

Try "The Core Media Player" as it pretty much plays everything under the sun and resembles Winamp. A nice alternative, although not as pretty, is VLC.

Zone Alarm is pretty useless, actually, as a firewall. I highly recommend either Black Ice Defender (if you are hardcore) or Kaspersky Anti-Hacker (they also have a nice Anti-Virus tool).

What OS are you running? XP already has a firewall built in and it's...so-so.

well, the obvious question now is.... do you HAVE a sound card? or do you think your new mobo has built in sound? if there is no hardware to output the signal, your OS will develop all kinds of weird sound related problems...

you could go into the control panel settings, and checking to see that your sound device drivers are properly installed as well. if something is wrong, i would recommend installing the latest drivers, then reinstalling your major programs that playback audio, so everything resets itself. you might also want to hunt down some codec package installers, they basically install as mnay codecs as the creator could think of all at once into your system. notorious for including spyware tho, so be careful.

the greatest website in the world for learning about codecs is videohelp.com
altho, they are more oriented towards doing video stuff, they still have lots of useful information about audio formats like .mp3, OGG, .wav, and how to convert one from another, along with walkthroughs of the process for hundreds of different programs, and a huge user forum you can search through for answers or even ask your own questions.

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well, the obvious question now is.... do you HAVE a sound card? or do you think your new mobo has built in sound? if there is no hardware to output the signal, your OS will develop all kinds of weird sound related problems...

Yeah, I'm... looking into that. I don't really know how to check if it's built in, and I've been too lazy to find the part number on my mobo and google it to get the specs, cause at this point I have no idea what's in there. I used to have a mobo I was quite fond of, but it was fried in an ugly intermittent power accident.

And thanks for the website suggestion, I'll be checking into that...

[stupid computer hassle]

Oh and also,



You knew it had to happen.

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Originally posted by hurtstotouchfire:
Oh and also,



You knew it had to happen.

What do you think of them apples Charma! haha! Oh, right. Nevermind.

well, the easiest way to check would be to simply look at the back of your computer where everything plugs into, and visually locate a 1/8" line jack used to attach speakers to your computer. if this exists, you most likely have sound built into the mobo. if not, you probably need to buy a soundcard in order to do things with sounds, or get technical and open the case and then google the mobo ID. if there is no sound hardware, it's possible windows simply chucked anything to do with sound out the window, in which case there would be no way to for it to read any sound files.

Thrying to sort all this mess, I assume one thing: Your main interest is in taking those audio files (which seems to be .WAVs) from the camera and burn them into an audio CD, right?
You're having problems with your PC box; have you tried the iMac? QuickTime plays any WAV I've ever stumbled upon, and from there (or thru other freeware apps) can be transcoded into MP3s or, preferably, AIFFs and those can be burned to a audio CD with iTunes as easily as draggin them. Or with Toast, a CD burning utility that might already be on your machine.
The problem here might be physical transfer from your camera's card to the iMac if the cam doesn't have an USB port. In that case, you could mail the files from the pcbox to the mac.
/rant that's what I hate of the PC architecture: the problems people face after overclocking and upgrading their motherboards and such, tuning video cards to squeeze the most FPS in Halo, and then, they install something else, plug a printer or such, and the system implodes. /rant

The camera is indeed USB, but the iMac doesn't have a CD burner.

The update currently is that I actually have managed to confirm that we've got on-board sound and that it works and shit. My computer is currently playing music, which is pretty exciting, thanks to drivers found here.

Still having the wav issue though. I'm also getting an error message at startup saying that we're "Unable to start driver for HPHipm11.exe" which I shall have to track down.

So Nero still won't burn the wav doc, and my audio player, which should play many formats, isn't playing several of the ones it claims to play and I think used to play pre-mobo-switch. These include cda and wav. Codecs? Not sure. Windows Media Player (which I don't habitually use or plan to use in the future so spare me the speech, I'm just using it because it's giving more explicit error messages than UltraPlayer, which just fails to perform and doesn't say anything about it) is still trying to hit the net and grab compressors or some crap.

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Name
Process
Details

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Pml Driver HPH11
HPHipm11.exe
HP PML Driver for HP's Photosmart printers.

try uninstalling & reinstalling WMP.... microsoft is so invasive that when you reinstall it chances are good it will fix your wav issues.

I still don't get why Ultra Player won't play the WAV file since its fully supports playback (even converts from MP3 to WAV in the package).

And CDA files...every CD player should be able to play these. This is their native format (in and outside a CD player).

Uninstalling and reinstalling WMP might do the trick since most other applications use the codecs that get installed with WMP for themselves.

You might want to look at this since it's a free download and has all the major codecs plus a light version of the the media player (assuming you want the video portion as well).

Here

Could help you strip the audio from video in a usable format.

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Hmm... sounds promising. I will consult with my geek buddies on this one.

I love the concept though, using Microsoft's own invasiveness to help me make my non-microsoft programs work.

Hmmm, assuming you have a supported burner, I still stand by my iTunes recommendation. Unfortunately, I haven't been able to uncover a list of supported burners for iTunes on Windows, but it does allow burning. So you would just throw all the wavs you want into a playlist and click burn... assuming your burner is supported, of course!

And since it's free and requires zero information sent to Apple (just uncheck all the boxes when you're at the download page), it might be a fairly easy thing to test. Actually, assuming you have broadband. It's a 28mb download or something like that.