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I'll give you a final Johnny Depp-count when I finish up. I'm still at one iteration, and they've all made it to Vancouver...
There are two. The second is when he points him out to Brown in the car.
 
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I'll give you a final Johnny Depp-count when I finish up. I'm still at one iteration, and they've all made it to Vancouver...
There are two. The second is when he points him out to Brown in the car.
Well, technically, twice is "multiple times" I suppose Roll Eyes


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Roth becomes more and more desperate during the late 20's and early 30's (he died in -38). Reading his writings, I wondered if WG is on the same path, seeing something we don't recognize, even if it is right in front of us?


He certainly felt a bit like that in 2004, and the book is, in my eyes, tainted by the need, in his eyes, to have a clear message, when he usually works better with a more oblique approach. But subtlety is not good when freedom is at stake.

He appears more relaxed this year, both here and in person. I wonder if the normalcy of the elections circus has dispelled some of his fears, or the Democrat check, inefficient though it usually is, of the government gives him hope.

However what I believe is the greater social menace, population movement throughout the world, whether from political, economical or environmental reasons, will be the biggest source of conflict in the future, as it is getting increasingly important now. And that will not go away by changing presidents.

Roth records how a Democracy is subverted by fear, envy and resentment into a vicious tiranny of the majority. Something we are seeing more and more in most Western countries. Just because the states are terrified of change, as they were then. Now we just need a frightened populace and we have our deja vu.


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I'll give you a final Johnny Depp-count when I finish up. I'm still at one iteration, and they've all made it to Vancouver...
There are two. The second is when he points him out to Brown in the car.
Well, technically, twice is "multiple times" I suppose Roll Eyes
I use the orgasm rule myself.
 
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Roth becomes more and more desperate during the late 20's and early 30's (he died in -38). Reading his writings, I wondered if WG is on the same path, seeing something we don't recognize, even if it is right in front of us?


He certainly felt a bit like that in 2004, and the book is, in my eyes, tainted by the need, in his eyes, to have a clear message, when he usually works better with a more oblique approach. But subtlety is not good when freedom is at stake.

He appears more relaxed this year, both here and in person. I wonder if the normalcy of the elections circus has dispelled some of his fears, or the Democrat check, inefficient though it usually is, of the government gives him hope.

However what I believe is the greater social menace, population movement throughout the world, whether from political, economical or environmental reasons, will be the biggest source of conflict in the future, as it is getting increasingly important now. And that will not go away by changing presidents.

Roth records how a Democracy is subverted by fear, envy and resentment into a vicious tiranny of the majority. Something we are seeing more and more in most Western countries. Just because the states are terrified of change, as they were then. Now we just need a frightened populace and we have our deja vu.
The climate wars scenario of the CIA outlines some interesting possible events as a result of environmental change vis a vis shifting populations, dwindling resources and armed conflicts arising from those.
 
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Sterling's contribution by proxy (me copying and pasting):

Is there any point to SF as something to be taken seriously
rather than as a branch of the "young adult" section of the bookstore?

*Well, not a "genre," as some sacred aisle in the bookstore where
you're supposed to feel all "serious..." This question looks archaic
to me. Do you actually still go to bookstores? You don't just Amazon
stuff?

*I take works of fiction seriously when they deal seriously with
serious issues. I think that's a matter of how things work out on the
page. It's not a matter of genre or marketing, if it ever was. It
isn't the New York Times bestseller list that validates SPOOK COUNTRY.
It's more the sensibility that book invokes, some author trying really
hard to battle with contemporary shadows. It reads like Soviet
dissident literature, almost. Some of that stuff was quite whimsical
and fantastic, yet it also felt about as serious as fiction is able to
get.

here: http://www.well.com/conf/inkwell.vue/topics/317/Bruce-S...the-Worl-page01.html
 
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