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So the mystical viral video thing kinda happened now, and thy name be Lonelygirl15. Probably a lot of you are already aware of it, it's a Vblog by a 16 year old girl and it has the YouTube addicts stumped.

Is it an art school project? A teaser for an upcoming film? Real? Fake? Is the girl's mystery religion really satanism? Is it the most clever product placement setup ever? People (including me) are watching every instalment with feverish curiosity, scanning every frame for clues (ok, I don't, I just read other people's synopsises) & coming up with wild theories.

Check it out at http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lonelygirl15
 
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Oh, and this guy actually wrote about it already..
 
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Ssshhh!! It's all viral marketing for the upcoming PR movie. Didn't you get the memo, Magda krushdbug? : )
 
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i wish, fuldog...
 
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The give-away is that she's done media training



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So the mystical viral video thing kinda happened now, and thy name be Lonelygirl15. Probably a lot of you are already aware of it, it's a Vblog by a 16 year old girl and it has the YouTube addicts stumped.

Is it an art school project? A teaser for an upcoming film? Real? Fake? Is the girl's mystery religion really satanism? Is it the most clever product placement setup ever? People (including me) are watching every instalment with feverish curiosity, scanning every frame for clues (ok, I don't, I just read other people's synopsises) & coming up with wild theories.

Check it out at http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=lonelygirl15
 
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Having bought "Pattern Recognition" two weeks ago and discovered Lonelygirl15 4 days ago, I suddenly remembered that William Gibson actually had a website, and perhaps even an email address. Better ! He's got a forum...

But I'm always kind of late when it comes to be the first at proposing an idea...
Anyway... That's always very frightening when a Gibson book meets reality...


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The give-away is that she's done media training



These days its part of the 3rd grade curriculum (or perhaps it should be)
 
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If I could quote ZeFrank:

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Varion writes, "Having an ugly Myspace contest is like having a contest to see who can eat the most cheeseburgers in 24 hours... You're mocking people who, for the most part, have no taste or artistic training."

Varion, thanks for telling me what I was doing. I didn't even know I was mocking people.

For a very long time, taste and artistic training have been things that only a small number of people have been able to develop. Only a few people could afford to participate in the production of many types of media. Raw materials like pigments were expensive; same with tools like printing presses; even as late as 1963 it cost Charles Peignot over $600,000 to create and cut a single font family.

The small number of people who had access to these tools and resources created rules about what was good taste or bad taste. These designers started giving each other awards and the rules they followed became even more specific. All sorts of stuff about grids and sizes and color combinations — lots of stuff that the consumers of this media never consciously noticed. Over the last 20 years, however, the cost of tools related to the authorship of media has plummeted. For very little money, anyone can create and distribute things like newsletters, or videos, or bad-ass tunes about "ugly."

Suddenly consumers are learning the language of these authorship tools. The fact that tons of people know names of fonts like Helvetica is weird! And when people start learning something new, they perceive the world around them differently. If you start learning how to play the guitar, suddenly the guitar stands out in all the music you listen to. For example, throughout most of the history of movies, the audience didn't really understand what a craft editing was. Now, as more and more people have access to things like iMovie, they begin to understand the manipulative power of editing. Watching reality TV almost becomes like a game as you try to second-guess how the editor is trying to manipulate you.

As people start learning and experimenting with these languages authorship, they don't necessarily follow the rules of good taste. This scares the shit out of designers.

In Myspace, millions of people have opted out of pre-made templates that "work" in exchange for ugly. Ugly when compared to pre-existing notions of taste is a bummer. But ugly as a representation of mass experimentation and learning is pretty damn cool.


Most high schools have basic video production classes and you have whole things like Current.tv's video production tutorials. I don't think production quality in and of itself is evidence of "fraud". I think, however there are other elements of the meme that lend much more credibility to the "it is a marketing ploy for Flemming's movie" thread.
 
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I agree that often "ugly" is just a sinonym of "unusual", but I also think that there are forms that are attractive no matter the cultural make up and others that do not. Color, for instance, is very much influenced by culture, with Europeans showing a tendency to muted, smooth palettes. Even when they use a bright color, such as red, it is seldom used with other vivid tones, but it appears by itself or with white or black only.

Instead, in the East, bright colors are very popular, in a cascade that often has Westerners complaining. Some of those "ugly" myspace pages are just experimenting with unusual palettes.

Also, there is a difference between ugly and offensive, but some people ignore it.

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but all humans share some standards, while others are culturally acquired. That applies also to internet media, with the difference that it is easier to be exposed to different cultural bagages.

Reading about the footage the question was whether its attractive was cross-cultural or intra-cultural, as it seems to be with that lonelygirl. I suppose the author wanted its appeal to be universal, but he was circumscribed by his own cultural influences, even if he tried to keep it deliberately vague.

Sorry for any writing mistakes but this computer lacks English ortographical correction.


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Just in case anyone was interested and hadn't heard: Lonelygirl15 is an art project by a group of filmmakers (apparently).

Check out the title of that blog.


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Watching in the retrospect, I love how amusing & appropriate the Ant Story is in the Daniel Returns... vid. Heh... and turtles!
 
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I was just reading the article posted by him who prefers to speak through different channels.

So far they only thing I ever seen about lonelygirl15 was a "proofing science wrong" gig, which I thought was quite funny (from a physics geeks perspective).

Watching a few more, I must confess I find them ... rather boring. Even more boring then your everage soap opra.


I've seen something like that coming, .. but I was hoping it would be some cool and revolutionary CGI stuff posted by an anonymous artist. A real genius with brand new ideas, a second Escher.
But once again I was hoping for too much. There probably is such a guy out there posting videos, waiting to be noticed. But nobody tells others about him, nobody knows him, everybody is to busy waiting for the daily soap from lonelygirl15. *sigh*



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I decided to watch one the other day, just to see what it was supposed to be about, and I found it... unwatchable. I literally could not force myself to watch more than the first few seconds after she started talking. It seemed terribly scripted, obviously fake at that mid-level of professionalism that marks, well, TV produced for the web. Maybe I just got a bad clip, or maybe I'm subconsciously biased by the second-hand exposure I've already had to it.


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I decided to watch one the other day, just to see what it was supposed to be about, and I found it... unwatchable. I literally could not force myself to watch more than the first few seconds after she started talking. It seemed terribly scripted, obviously fake at that mid-level of professionalism that marks, well, TV produced for the web. Maybe I just got a bad clip, or maybe I'm subconsciously biased by the second-hand exposure I've already had to it.


Isn't that a fair description of, well, every video blog? :P
 
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Yes, is some ways. They certainly had the inane part down. Wink


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"Now listen -- whoever comes to you with this Barzini meeting -- he's the traitor. Don't forget that."

*eyes krushdbug suspiciously*


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From The LA Times, a link found following colins link:

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"There is no place better to hide then right in the middle of L.A.," Goodfried said. "Everyone is so focused on themselves that I guess they don't even notice."



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That is definitely the quote of the week
 
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I'm going to throw in my observations on the subject.

Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't see what the big deal is about lonelygirl15...
 
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