Aha. Hm hm. Well, now I do know about some '50s themed scenes in Japan, although they tend to the biker and/or West Side Story types. But yes I was talking about more generally in style, the way ugly semi-70s stuff was back in vogue for a while there. To be more specific, I was thinking that there is no trend in fashion, that I know of, which would make the clothes in that picture currently "fashionable."

But I do have to get out more in any case.

On the other hand, I have no idea what

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pubesters and muffin tops

are.

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Originally posted by colin:
On the other hand, I have no idea what

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pubesters and muffin tops

are.

Ditto. They sound like a kids TV couple....

I believe pubsters are very low cut pants in the front, and I know muffin tops are when you wear really low cut pants and your shirt exposes your belly. It roles over the top of the pant like the top of a muffin!

I think the key to having a timeless style is to minimize the amount of "fashionable" items of clothing you are wearing. There will be people who could tell, but if you cut off the head of any Cary Grant picture where he is in a suit, it would be very difficult to pick the time period the picture was from.

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Originally posted by mikethecat:
I believe pubsters are very low cut pants in the front, and I know muffin tops are when you wear really low cut pants and your shirt exposes your belly. It roles over the top of the pant like the top of a muffin!

Hmm. I think, due to endeavours in British pubs, some of us have been wearing pubsters and muffin tops for years, without realising it.

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if you cut off the head of any Cary Grant picture where he is in a suit, it would be very difficult to pick the time period the picture was from.

Yes. Absolutely.

Yes. That.

woof

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Originally posted by Noirjyre:

She looks like an x-ray wife!

Actually that should have read 'social X-ray'

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Those women whose company she now seems to prize ... those ... those ... The phrase pops into his head at that very instant: social X rays ... They keep themselves so thin, they look like X-ray pictures ... You can see lamplight through their bones ... while they’re chattering about interiors and landscape gardening ... and encasing their scrawny shanks in metallic Lycra tubular tights for their Sports Training classes ... And it hasn’t helped any, has it! ... See how drawn her face and neck look ... He concentrated on her face and neck ... drawn ... No doubt about it ... Sports Training ... turning into one of them —

The Bonfire of the Vanities, Tom Wolfe

Actually, I could never imagine this lady encasing her scrawny shank in anything metallic containing Lycra. Ever. As far as taking a Sports Training class? I'm afraid I don't see that either.

Fast Forward her Forty Years

If it wasn't for the gloves you would see the windowlight through her bones.

Nah. She's old money, or at least acts like it. Like Nan Kempner, a style all her own. If this women exercised, she'd be real quite about it, claiming in public she just has "skinny genes."

She sure is skinny though! Her dress probably weighs more then she does.

edit - well crap I used a horrible example. I just read today that TW based his social x-rays on Nan Kempner!

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If you really want to see _PR_ in everyday life, get the audiobook from Tantor and go for a long drive. The synchronicities will astound you.

Tonight, on the 'Culture Show', on BBC2, they have reported on the new marketing phenomena - 'real word of mouth' marketing...utilising cab drivers and the like to mention products favourably, and also the existence of 'real people' (paid actors) striking up conversations with strangers about the latest brand. The programme has just concluded the report with the words, 'be aware. The power of buzz is amongst us...'

Ring any bells, anyone?!??

You mean the TV Radio and Internet aren't enough to force us into endorsing products on the fly anyway. We actually need paid actors

More power to the Market...

I always wondered what they meant when they called them meat...

-Chris B.

I'll tell you about one specific instance that happened when I was in Boston MA.

I checked into a Hotel and rather than going down to the waterfront, I asked if there was anywhere close by car to go for Lobster.

The guy practically had a map in front of me in seconds.

This was years ago...like 1999 or so. But by the same token, what's to stop them from working in a bar?

I wouldn't be surprised if I met the devil himself in a bar...But then I've been around the casino for a bit too long...

I've been sober for almost 2 years, and I can't get over how much you notice the attempted influence of everything around you from the Beer commercials on TV, to the visits to houseparties, that are almost like beer tents. I wouldn't be surprised if some of these incidents have sponsors too...Maybe the local university rushes?

With respect to Cary Grant dressing timelessly, the main way you can date his clothing is how high he wore his pants. At least up around his navel, if not higher. Look at North by Northwest again.

Of course, he usually kept his jacket on.

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Originally posted by Jasper:
With respect to Cary Grant dressing timelessly, the main way you can date his clothing is how high he wore his pants. At least up around his navel, if not higher. Look at North by Northwest again.

Of course, he usually kept his jacket on.

That is true. However, I would still argue that if you picked up pictures of his suits and moved them to today, he would not look obvioulsy "retro."