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Originally posted by uroborus:
Michael Mann would also do alot of homework and preparation.

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Nice choice - having enjoyed Collateral so much, and being a huge fan of Manhunter, I would love to see what Mann could do with PR - he and Eastwood both care enough to take the time to do the "look and feel" of the movie, as well as plot, with the kind of care I'm sure we'd like to see, if PR really does become a film someday.

Manhunter is far better than Red Dragon. Tom Noonan. *runs off screaming like a Brownie*

Didn't the soundtrack include Lunatic Fringe?

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Originally posted by uroborus:
Manhunter is far better than Red Dragon. Tom Noonan. *runs off screaming like a Brownie*

Didn't the soundtrack include Lunatic Fringe?

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I certainly agree with you - Ralph Fiennes (sp?) was nowhere near as creepy as Noonan. And Brian Cox was much classier, and more understated than Hopkins' Lector - though I enjoyed Hopkins' performance in Lambs.

From what I've seen of the soundtrack listings (not easy to get a definitive listing), it is a lot of The Reds and Shriekback, plus others such as The Prime Movers ("Strong as I am"). No Lunatic Fringe that I know of, however. Can't help but think of Petersen crashing through the glass every time I hear that climax of In-a-gadda-da-vida.

Hmmm- let's try to get this thread back on its rails.

Andrei Volkov (small, but important role) - Rade Serbedzija?

What are the odds that anyone involved in the making of the PR film would come to this board? 50/50?

The casting is crucial, but it seems inevitable that many will be disappointed no matter the choices.

I agree, Rade Serbedzija would be a good Volkov.

Here is the imdb.com page for PR. David Arata is cited as screenwriter and Peter Weir as director.

imdb.com also hosts message boards and input there may have a greater chance of influencing Weir.

Well, we do have one reader with limited impact in the project. And the IMDB post has not been updated since April 2004. So I would say here it may be more useful. And entertaining.

Steve Golin is listed on imdb as Producer. He is a co-founder of Propaganda Films. The production company for PR will likely be Anonymous Content, LLC. The website www.anonymouscontent.com is a good place for videos.

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Originally posted by razorgirl:
what i think is that pr is a great book
the end
what is this obsession with making it into a film? why?
it's not going to be better or more slicker or smarter than the combination of william gibson and your imagination

because there are millions of people who don't read books but still enjoy a well told story.
Why not lobby for a more appropo cast and producers, directors, and screen play adapters who might be able to approach some semblance of doing justice to the material?

It could be interesting to see the different view and understanding of a director who is (probably/hopefully) a professional artist.

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[...] his work has been notorious for not translating well onto the screen, from Johnny Mnemonic (fun but deeply flawed) through the Alien 3 script
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He is a fantastic writer, but his style is poetic.
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When you take a poetic style of writing from the page and turn it into pictures you have to rely on the poetry in the soul of the audience to awaken the images, and most of the time that just won't happen.
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Indeed, William's style of writing is so un-explicit that any attempt to transfer it to other media is impliciting an interpretation, in this case of the director. From what I have got so far, I cannot see any disappointment or sadness on the wuthors side. I consider his statement about Peter Weir being one of his favourite directors genuine, even in our days of massive PR (here: public relations) in which authors are often and incresingly pushed toward promoting any siblings of their work.

Imho, I cannot but completely agree on the choice of the driector. Peter himself is very poetic, in a way William's mirror-media equivalent. From the moment I read on imdb that this book is going to be filmed, and by Peter Weir, my anticipation has been triggered any ever increased since. I am absolutely convinced that Peter's feeling for poesie, obvious in Hanging Rock, his ability to holistically treat humanistic motions displayed in Dead Poets and his masterly development and evaluation of side-stream topics and unusual settings visible in Truman Show will make Pattern Recognition The Movie one h of a masterpiece in cinematograpyh.

Believe it or not, I do have friends who have never heard of William Gibson before. The conversion of PR into a movie will help widening public awareness about the author and his sublime but subtle influence on our present-day society. (Still wondering how I could possibly claim my handle after 20+ years of Neuromancer?:P) Is awareness not the essence of the book we're talking about here? Risking to make myself enemies in here, but other present-day bestseller authors are merely lame ducks (in the face...) compared to William; he would be able to fit the first 100 pages of DaVinci Code into one single chapter, retaining all information necessary for the plot, but in a more compellingly gripping way. I am talking about literature here, not entertaining text books for schools.

I'd like to agree with another poster in this thread (too lazy to look up the nick) that less-known actors would provide most potential in this effort.

PS. Dorotea: I imagined her French or even German; French because of her past engagements and German because of her current association with Heinzi & Pfaff. And I know that both French and German women can be real bitches.

There have been a lot of interesting suggestions for a director for PR but Peter Weir is still the very best option. Look at the plane crash sequence at the begining of Fearless with the bottle of champagne rolling along the highway and the people emerging from the corn field. Intense, poetic, hyper-real - all the best WG qualities. Movies like 'The Cars That Ate Paris' and 'The Last Wave' prove he can do the fantasy cinema thing very very well and 'Master and Commander' is a virtuosic mainstream film made with real craft and detail. Sure - there was 'Dead Poets Society' and 'Green Card' - but at least they weren't weighed down with sentimental hogwash. If anyone is going to pull off the 9/11 scenes from PR, Weir is the man.