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Considering how Brad Pitt functions in the film of Fight Club, he's not really there to be much more than smug and hypermasculine, so that works out fine. Norton totally sold *me* on Fight Club.




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And Brad Pitt can not act worth a shit, eye candy is his niche.


That's what got me to rent the video! Brad Pitt with a bare chest. I wasn't expecting much from the movie besides some great man-on-man boxing action, but boy-oh-boy was I blown away by that film.
 
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Choke is just a better story than FC, but then again, it helps to read the words in between the covers, so I understand how you might have missed that.

And Brad Pitt can not act worth a shit, eye candy is his niche.


Ive likely read them both more times than you have.

Choke isn't as good as FC. It's at the point where he started to become a self-parody. Too much cleverness not enough meat, though I still like it.

The rest of you are too hard on Brad Pitt, he has significant talent. the industry and his colleagues recognize such.
 
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Pattern Recognition is my favorite of WG's books. I just heard about Spook Country and am excited to read it. I'm more of a writer than a reader but when it came to reading WG's books for a school project a few years ago, I was captured in his writing, and now I have been spoiled and can only read his books. lol.


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Ive likely read them both more times than you have.

Such unadulterated BS.
I've likely read them before you even heard of him. I was a projectionist in Portland at the same time as he was writing his novels about his friends, my colleagues, in longhand underneath the Freightliner truck he was supposed to be wrenching on.

Jeebus wept.


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lmao Boogerhead.


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Reading PR a second time. Iniatlly read it in 2007 with depleted seratonin levels. Better this time round.

So many questions... confident that FashPo, Gil and Boogerhead et al, will have most all the answers. I bathe in your pre-cog.
 
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Chuck Palahniuk is definitely an awesome writer. What I like the most about him is there is always some little twist in all of his books, and the main character's perspective is always very interesting.

I do own most of his books and read them like I eat pixiestix, but none of his work has really personally affected me. (Invisible monsters is one of my favourites from him) I know many fans of his work and he is very popular, so I am surprised he had the time to make you a necklace UberDog.

As for fight club, I own the book but when I tried to read it, I couldn't get the movie image out of my head. The movie seemed to be a very good adaptation from what I read of the book, so I figured what's the point of reading it.
 
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I never read Palahniuk before any of you never read Palahniuk, so there! In fact, I didn't know he was even before he became famous!


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As for fight club, I own the book but when I tried to read it, I couldn't get the movie image out of my head. The movie seemed to be a very good adaptation from what I read of the book, so I figured what's the point of reading it.


4 srsly?

You like his books but...hey, you know, fuck it, it's just as good to see the movie, or whatever, I mean, it's pretty much the same story.

Besides being rather different, Fight Club, the book, than the movie, why would you want to read it? Ick! Words!

;-)

I read something with Chuck P about how Fight Club was supposed to be a pranking on\satire of, men that felt they didn't know anything about themselves if they didn't get in a fight. Where as, in general, it seems to me that the movie and the popular cultural vision that's emerged (from the movie, because...who the fuck reads books by authors they are fond of? fuck that noise!) are the opposite of that.

Which I always find quite funny, even tho it's possible I'm making up the interview I read with him just to make myself feel better.

Anyway, mostly I think it's funny you say he's "definitely an awesome writer" and "own most of his books and read them like I eat pixie stix" and then closed with "read a book of a movie I already saw? by an awesome writer? fuck that!".

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Having read nor viewed neither, I thought both were about people telling me, "Dude, you've gotta read/see Fight Club", in a tone that made me promise myself I would do neither.

Same thing as back in the 70s when everyone told me how 'heavy, man' whatever was. When something affects that many people profoundly, I'm probably allergic to it.


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I read something with Chuck P about how Fight Club was supposed to be a pranking on\satire of, men that felt they didn't know anything about themselves if they didn't get in a fight. Where as, in general, it seems to me that the movie and the popular cultural vision that's emerged (from the movie, because...who the fuck reads books by authors they are fond of? fuck that noise!) are the opposite of that.

Actually, fans of the book are often just as fanatic about the philosophical underpinning they perceive in the text. I was too, when I was 20 and it seemed like new information to me.

But clearly, yes, it is satire. All his work is satire.

I will say, that the film is probably the best adaptation I have ever seen in terms of fidelity to the original work.
 
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Well, jbx, if I didn't read, why would I be posting on a forum based around an author’s work? I already said I own most of Chuck Palahniuk's novels and "I read them like I eat pixiestix". In other words, I READ A LOT of his books. On top of that, I read a lot of books by other authors.

What my point is, I had a hard time reading Fight Club because I like to have my own ideas of characters and setting. I don't like picturing actors from a movie when I read a book. If I want to see the actors, I'll watch the movie. I like things to be a surprise. I don't want to know the ending when I read a book, if I did, I would just read the last chapter before even buying it in the store.
Basically, you are an idiot and have no idea w hat you are talking about.
 
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Do you post on Chuckpalahniuk.net?
 
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SOOOooo, Getting back to PR...

After reading it, I felt that absence you feel after spending a week or two immersed in a different world that is suddenly gone, except it was worse than usual.

I think it stems from the fact that Gibson created an environment and aesthetic that was so intriguing and well executed that I didn't want to lose it.

Re-reading definitely helped, however. And moving on to Spook Country, while nowhere near a replacement, occupied my attention long enough for me to move onto other obsessions Wink
 
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I too felt a sense of emptiness having finished PR. I tried to read it real slow too, but could only keep it the novel going for 3 days. Afterwards, I even went to the Buzz Rickson site, but Cayce's jacket is TOO expensive.

It was so cool how Cayce connected with Stella and ultimately Nora.

Also I hated Boone Chu from the start.

Lastly, it was genius for WG to pair Cayce and Parkaboy up. Loved it.
 
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I too felt a sense of emptiness having finished PR.
Just do what we all do. Read it again. You'll be pleasantly surprised by all the stuff you missed the first time you read it. And you can enjoy it in a more languorous, chewy, smelling the roses kind of way.
 
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Plus, if you read it backwards, it tells you John is the Devil!
 
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[snip]...Lastly, it was genius for WG to pair Cayce and Parkaboy up. Loved it.


As much as I loved the book (and others) I always cringe when an author does something like this. It feels like an overly obvious cop-out to me, a little too "here's your happy ending, tied up in a bow".

But maybe I'm just a grump that hates happy endings... or endings in general. Reality just isn't like that - as fantastic as things may get. The only real ending is death and culturally we identify that as "not happy".


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