Yeah! A real detective in our midst!

There is no reason for the old man to have Hollis's number, or care about what happened to her bag, so I can't see why he could/would have called.

The only person I could think of who would have wanted to call the phone was Bigend.

Now, thanks to Hasa's detective work, I will have to slip Mr G an iPod at the reading with the question hidden in the tracks. Either that or ask him quietly so as not to spoil it for others.

what about garet?
he knew the phone was gone.
and there seemed to be some flirtation between him and hollis.
although do we not already have a thread for who phoned milgrim?
not that i necesarily think that.
yikes. going to sit down. board is making me dizzy.

Sorry, that was my fault, I mentioned a few things that people have been saying about Bigend together. Here's the "who rang?" thread.

oh. i knew where the thread was.

though less sure why we have so many threads when the catch all "spoilers" thread would have allowed easy overlapping.

That one is not my fault.

Here's what I don't get...Brown crashes the car, Milgrim gets out and walks more or less right to where Hollis and garreth are shooting at the container? How long does Milgrim wander for? Presumably as long as it takes Tito to get into the truck and complete his mission, an hour? Where does Milgrim get the purse at? The last we see of it, Hollis digs her phone out of it while Garreth readies his rifle. He shoots and when next we see them they are in the car and she says its gone. What are the odds of Milgrim wandering into the very place that Garreth was shooting from? Also, is there a connection between Milgrim wandering through a movie shoot and the nect chapter, Garreth telling Hollis they are location scouts? (Garreth's friend shooting the movie Milgrim wanders through?)

There was part of my brain that told me that there was a Chinese car in the container and that everyone had been duped by Bigend into a mad, mad, mad, mad world chase after the container with the finale taking place under the lights and cameras of the film set as all the protagonists descend on the container.

Of course, that part of my brain was wrong, but if I had the film rights I would change the ending to be that way, and possibly cast John Candy as Brown and Phil Silvers as Milgrim.

ha. that would have been deeply fucked up genius. of course. in theory (he says hoping memory serves), no one in the book actually looked inside the container.

so nothing to stop there being some reference to that in the next book, like the throw away reference to the footage. speaking of which, was the footage not being used to promote something chinese?

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Originally posted by IndividualFrog:
That one is not my fault.

I think it was mine.

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Originally posted by Kradlum:
There was part of my brain that told me that there was a Chinese car in the container and that everyone had been duped by Bigend into a mad, mad, mad, mad world chase after the container with the finale taking place under the lights and cameras of the film set as all the protagonists descend on the container.

Of course, that part of my brain was wrong, but if I had the film rights I would change the ending to be that way, and possibly cast John Candy as Brown and Phil Silvers as Milgrim.

I thought that maybe he, or someone else, was having Bobby create a virtual container, that there wasn't really any such missing container. Some review had mentioned Iraq money and I assumed that was what was in there. Stupid review.

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Originally posted by UberDog:
But by the time you say that Bigend might have placed these players together regarding a severely covert op that would never see the light of day because he has uncanny marketing instincts, there's no rational connexion left, just raw unexplained magic.

No, I didn't mean that at all. I'm saying that Gibson paints Bigend in a fashion that Gibson himself creates as: he follows instinct without having any idea where it will lead. Bigend's issue is that while he has this intuintive nose for the "next big thing" he seems to execute it in the most banal ways and, having done so, embarks off on the next adventure like a bored child. He is, in his own way, completely amoral while at the same time being completly mundane at the end of the day.

He doesn't play the actual game, mostly because he has so many games in play- Some less dramatic other, Like the container-
Each item, or idea he has in motion- Comes front some vague unknown, a container that people bother to move around, segments of film that come from no where- To give Bigend what he wants if for him to find the next motion for him to watch come to seed-
Fortunately or unfortunately- Most of the curiosities that perk his ear, end up connected- Which is why he is trying to buy a song to sell a Chinese car-

A little off topic, but I didn't know where else to post this.. I just found this book entitled "BASE 66: A Story of Fear, Fun and Freefall" and it has some wonderful BASE photographs and stories for those who are interested... it really filled out that side story for me.

Sounds like a good find, Keen. I wonder what Garreth's BASE name is...

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Originally posted by Noirjyre:

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Originally posted by UberDog:
But by the time you say that Bigend might have placed these players together regarding a severely covert op that would never see the light of day because he has uncanny marketing instincts, there's no rational connexion left, just raw unexplained magic.

No, I didn't mean that at all. I'm saying that Gibson paints Bigend in a fashion that Gibson himself creates as: he follows instinct without having any idea where it will lead. Bigend's issue is that while he has this intuintive nose for the "next big thing" he seems to execute it in the most banal ways and, having done so, embarks off on the next adventure like a bored child. He is, in his own way, completely amoral while at the same time being completly mundane at the end of the day.

He doesn't play the actual game, mostly because he has so many games in play- Some less dramatic other, Like the container-
Each item, or idea he has in motion- Comes front some vague unknown, a container that people bother to move around, segments of film that come from no where- To give Bigend what he wants if for him to find the next motion for him to watch come to seed-
Fortunately or unfortunately- Most of the curiosities that perk his ear, end up connected- Which is why he is trying to buy a song to sell a Chinese car-

I think you lost me there, could you clarify?

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Originally posted by Keen:
A little off topic, but I didn't know where else to post this.. I just found this book entitled "BASE 66: A Story of Fear, Fun and Freefall" and it has some wonderful BASE photographs and stories for those who are interested... it really filled out that side story for me.

I wrote this script once in which these improv terrorists put on a BASE jumping show in Vegas with live suicides jumping off. it really was an ugly script but that's how I knew about BASE jumping.

Too funny:

Faith Base Jumping

The past 7 years' American politics in a nut's hell, yes?

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:
Too funny:

Faith Base Jumping

The past 7 years' American politics in a nut's hell, yes?

Quite.
But also her origins.