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Originally posted by jbx:
Personality ROMs of Teh Gibz and Sterlz writing "new" books in a private simulation of the early 80s. Zeitgeist in a bottle.

I'm pretty sure I'll take "The Winter Market" as Gibson's living will with regard to that possibility:

"Fuck no."

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Originally posted by Justy:

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Originally posted by jbx:
Personality ROMs of Teh Gibz and Sterlz writing "new" books in a private simulation of the early 80s. Zeitgeist in a bottle.

I'm pretty sure I'll take "The Winter Market" as Gibson's living will with regard to that possibility:

"Fuck no."

Pretty much any serious authors worst nightmare eh?

"You mean I just wrote Jason Bourne novels.....forever?"

"Gravity's Rainbow...6!?!?"

The Stranger, Redux
The Shining Two: Still Shining
Snowcrash 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ....

Only J. D. Salinger might be so inclined.

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Pretty much any serious authors worst nightmare eh?

"You mean I just wrote Jason Bourne novels.....forever?"

"Gravity's Rainbow...6!?!?"

The Stranger, Redux
The Shining Two: Still Shining
Snowcrash 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ....

Only J. D. Salinger might be so inclined.

Well, since by the time consciousness gestalts would be genuinely uploadable and preservable, cyberpunk would most definitely be DEAD, so Sterling and Gibson might actually have a fine good time of it writing anything BUT cyberpunk.

I now, I know: zeitgeist in a bottle. But even a ROM would notice how things started to smell funny.

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:
Well, since by the time consciousness gestalts would be genuinely uploadable and preservable, cyberpunk would most definitely be DEAD, so Sterling and Gibson might actually have a fine good time of it writing anything BUT cyberpunk.

I now, I know: zeitgeist in a bottle. But even a ROM would notice how things started to smell funny.

ROMs with noses? Not in my simulation. ;-)

More along the lines of a Shakespeare in a bottle. Quantum novels, Schroedinger novels, so long as the quantum author doesn't observe his own shadow in the Matrix they can produce "new" "epoch authentic" material forever. You just erase their short-term between goes.

Every day is 1990, wake up just like yesterday, do a little writin'.

Reboot Radiohead over and over until they produce an album you like.

The Nirvana bootlegs will be sketchy since it's all emulation for Cobain, but we'll get Grohl and Novaselic uploaded.

Proto-retro-nostalgia in a bottle.

Or maybe you as a young company peon graft Teh Gibz inputs on to your own sensorium and then expose the ROM to new products and use your feelings of his reactions (ie, his feelings) as a kind of dowsing-rod for "cool".

Cayce in the machine. A thousand ROMs blinking on and off. Just a second of time to realize 1)you're in the future, 2)"you" are a computer program not even good enough to rate real AI, 3) you're impressions of the product\image\logo, and then you reboot, mind wiped clean, and back on again, rinse repeat.

Spend your days in a cube embodying the instant gut instincts of generations of cool-hunters, intellectuals, trend-setters.

We have got to do a future-tech intervention with you, jbx. You have... a problem. Addiction is nothing to be ashamed of, it's a disease.

(Like leprosy )

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ROMs with noses? Not in my simulation. ;-)

Just some olfactory algorithms, is all. No noses.

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:

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ROMs with noses? Not in my simulation. ;-)

Just some olfactory algorithms, is all. No noses.

Even better is to map out some memory functions in your pocket cyberwriter so that they remember their finest personal moment of writing Zen, live through the sequence, just before they sit down to write the latest sequence in your personalized, evolving, unending, Analog serial.

You could likely even start to tweak the ROM, runtime commandline stuff to create a freak Frankenstein's Monster of writering awesomeness.

Their first hit of low dose dex from their early 20s, their best, life time, cup of coffee, ever, their favorite chair (which they found post lodex and pre BLE cup of go juice), etc, etc.

Being able to constantly tweak a series of authors to your will, slave driver style, forcing them to work 24/7 shifts of unending simulated "Best Writing Day Ever". Happy worker. Little slices of Groundhog Day simulated heaven.

If you wanted you could give it more CPU time and make it run faster, writing faster than you're reading rate. In case you wanted to print it out in to a physical book object, take with you on a trip.

Unnnn, future-tech future-shock...../cue drool

All that drool's liable to corrode your synapses.

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Originally posted by jbx:

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Originally posted by Justy:

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Originally posted by jbx:
Personality ROMs of Teh Gibz and Sterlz writing "new" books in a private simulation of the early 80s. Zeitgeist in a bottle.

I'm pretty sure I'll take "The Winter Market" as Gibson's living will with regard to that possibility:

"Fuck no."

Pretty much any serious authors worst nightmare eh?

"You mean I just wrote Jason Bourne novels.....forever?"

"Gravity's Rainbow...6!?!?"

The Stranger, Redux
The Shining Two: Still Shining
Snowcrash 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ....

Only J. D. Salinger might be so inclined.

The thing is, most authors do simply reinvent their own will again and again.

The results are always recognizable by pattern.

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:

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Pretty much any serious authors worst nightmare eh?

"You mean I just wrote Jason Bourne novels.....forever?"

"Gravity's Rainbow...6!?!?"

The Stranger, Redux
The Shining Two: Still Shining
Snowcrash 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, ....

Only J. D. Salinger might be so inclined.

Well, since by the time consciousness gestalts would be genuinely uploadable and preservable, cyberpunk would most definitely be DEAD, so Sterling and Gibson might actually have a fine good time of it writing anything BUT cyberpunk.

I now, I know: zeitgeist in a bottle. But even a ROM would notice how things started to smell funny.

No, because it would be caught in a recursive loop. Think of all the layers possible. A Gibson writing about a cyberpunk future in which a Gibson writes about a real 20th century in which a writer imagines a cyberpunk future in which a writer named Gibson writes about a...

The recursion itself is the thing, the content becomes subservient to the pattern.

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Originally posted by jbx:

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:

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ROMs with noses? Not in my simulation. ;-)

Just some olfactory algorithms, is all. No noses.

Even better is to map out some memory functions in your pocket cyberwriter so that they remember their finest personal moment of writing Zen, live through the sequence, just before they sit down to write the latest sequence in your personalized, evolving, unending, Analog serial.

You could likely even start to tweak the ROM, runtime commandline stuff to create a freak Frankenstein's Monster of writering awesomeness.

Their first hit of low dose dex from their early 20s, their best, life time, cup of coffee, ever, their favorite chair (which they found post lodex and pre BLE cup of go juice), etc, etc.

Being able to constantly tweak a series of authors to your will, slave driver style, forcing them to work 24/7 shifts of unending simulated "Best Writing Day Ever". Happy worker. Little slices of Groundhog Day simulated heaven.

If you wanted you could give it more CPU time and make it run faster, writing faster than you're reading rate. In case you wanted to print it out in to a physical book object, take with you on a trip.

Unnnn, future-tech future-shock...../cue drool

That's pretty much the life of an addict you describe, JB.

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Originally posted by UberDog:


The thing is, most authors do simply reinvent their own will again and again.

The results are always recognizable by pattern.

Oh, well, sure, that's what I mean, distill the essence of their style and then smear it on whatever you wanted. UberMSG for literature. Camus flavored Gibson, or Gibson flavored Camus.

The joke would be to have to write the most personally boring things for eternity. You know, Buffy and X-Files 4eva, the worst kinds of soap opera comic book plotting, continuous serial narrative with perfect fan cannon. It's be like you were R. A. Salvatore.

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Originally posted by UberDog:

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Originally posted by jbx:


Unnnn, future-tech future-shock...../cue drool

That's pretty much the life of an addict you describe, JB.

As long as I don't admit I have a problem I don't have to worry about quitting.

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No, because it would be caught in a recursive loop. Think of all the layers possible. A Gibson writing about a cyberpunk future in which a Gibson writes about a real 20th century in which a writer imagines a cyberpunk future in which a writer named Gibson writes about a...

The recursion itself is the thing, the content becomes subservient to the pattern.

More soph, please!

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:
All that drool's liable to corrode your synapses.

See, and that's what I mean, used to be laying on your back drooling on yourself was a relatively safe option, but drill a hole in your head, stick a electrical\fiber optic lead in there and suddenly drooling on yourself can be a brain threatening state of slothitude.

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See, and that's what I mean, used to be laying on your back drooling on yourself was a relatively safe option, but drill a hole in your head, stick a electrical\fiber optic lead in there and suddenly drooling on yourself can be a brain threatening state of slothitude.

Just because self-drolling used to be safe didn't mean it was cool. And cyberpunks were/are ALWAYS cool.

Me cool; you drool.

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:

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No, because it would be caught in a recursive loop. Think of all the layers possible. A Gibson writing about a cyberpunk future in which a Gibson writes about a real 20th century in which a writer imagines a cyberpunk future in which a writer named Gibson writes about a...

The recursion itself is the thing, the content becomes subservient to the pattern.

More soph, please!

Worse would be real time authors notes. Unpacking all of their personal references via memory replay off the ROM, or off another ROM, full of different memories you wanted to stream in to the flow. Fully in-line annotated Finnegan's Wake. And then the meta meta meta novel from Uber.

With a Palahniuk twist at the end.

I'ma throw up.

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:
I'ma throw up.

Whoa, hang on, let me grab the bucket....

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Originally posted by jbx:

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:
I'ma throw up.

Whoa, hang on, let me grab the bucket....

What are floors for?