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When Zona and Chia see the idoru in Venice, Zona asks if it is the person Chia saw before in Venice. Chia says it is not. Who did they see in Venice before?

A Kombinat netrunner? Who?

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I am also not sure why Laney wants Rei Toei to dump him back in the data construct of fan stuff when he's got a much better nodal lead right in front of him.

I know he wants to do his job and maybe she spooks him, but still, it seems kind of odd to me. If he wants to do his job he should be talking to her. That is what the whole thing is about, he's been told that much. Maybe he thinks the Kombinat is behind it or someone else, but the idoru is right there and has just told him that she found the place in Stockholm through Laney.

Very minor, just musing.

Remington Silvertips, you know.

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Plectics is the name that Murray Gell-Mann, the Nobel Laureate in Physics, has suggested for the research area described by Gell-Mann as "a broad transdisciplinary subject covering aspects of simplicity and complexity as well as the properties of complex adaptive systems, including composite complex adaptive systems consisting of many adaptive agents."

Oh.

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When Zona and Chia see the idoru in Venice, Zona asks if it is the person Chia saw before in Venice. Chia says it is not. Who did they see in Venice before?

A Kombinat netrunner? Who?

The David Bowie-esque Music Master. Rei has chosen to inhabit that construct's place in the Venice simulation.

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When Zona and Chia see the idoru in Venice, Zona asks if it is the person Chia saw before in Venice. Chia says it is not. Who did they see in Venice before?

A Kombinat netrunner? Who?

The David Bowie-esque Music Master. Rei has chosen to inhabit that construct's place in the Venice simulation.

I thought about that, but she inhabits him later so how wouldn't she have recognized her at that point?

Anyway, finished Idoru again. Likely on to All Tomorrow's Parties.

I should like to live on a reconstituted Hak Nam on an island made of gomi in Tokyo Bay.

That'd be all right.

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I could really have done with a lot more of Walled City in Idoru.

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I could really have done with a lot more of Walled City in Idoru.

yeah. for sure.

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I could really have done with a lot more of Walled City in Idoru.

Yes, it was hardly there, except as the informing specter of background.

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I asked him about it once, suggested the soup was the Jungian sea of pop-culture. he clearly thought I had apophneia, told me the soup was something he'd been told about, some guy on a ship that made chili that never stopped cooking.

I still like my theory.

You actually did talk to William Gibson personally? I'm jealous.

These people here have dinner with him and shit. They're tight.

PG. 201 - the long chain monomers again, this time in a van.

What? Who in here has dinner with William Gibson? How did you get to know him?

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What? Who in here has dinner with William Gibson? How did you get to know him?

quite a few of the Euro-boardies, actually. there was a book-signing in... Paris? not long ago, where Mr. G ended up going for coffee with... Arkan, Aisha... a few others i'm sure but i can't remember.
Mr. G does know who "we" are. he reads the Board, mentions people in his blog, talks to them at book-signings...

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What? Who in here has dinner with William Gibson? How did you get to know him?

quite a few of the Euro-boardies, actually. there was a book-signing in... Paris? not long ago, where Mr. G ended up going for coffee with... Arkan, Aisha... a few others i'm sure but i can't remember.
Mr. G does know who "we" are. he reads the Board, mentions people in his blog, talks to them at book-signings...

Well, Mr. G was in Munich on March 5th 2008. But I had no chance to go and meet him because I had no time. Next time I won't miss my chance. Somehow I'd like to know what he thinks about the Munich airport.

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Chevette and Rydell come together nicely.

I think all of Gibson's "love stories" in his novels are written in a very, very subtle way. He never mentions the word love or anything related directly and I like him for that. These subtle descriptions kept my fascination for the characters. You can feel the pain they are going through between the lines.
For example Case's yearning for Linda Lee, Rydell's love to Chevette, Cayce and Boone. I think Laney is also in love with someone (Rei Toei?). It's never directly mentioned that they actually love someone, but you just know it. Such emotional stuff is rarely to find in literature because in most cases it's written too obvious and then it loses its magic. So, concerning this point, WG also writes great, subtle romances which mostly are unhappy.

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I asked him about it once, suggested the soup was the Jungian sea of pop-culture. he clearly thought I had apophneia, told me the soup was something he'd been told about, some guy on a ship that made chili that never stopped cooking.

I still like my theory.

This *has* to have been when he told you "you infer too much".

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Chevette and Rydell come together nicely.

I think all of Gibson's "love stories" in his novels are written in a very, very subtle way. He never mentions the word love or anything related directly and I like him for that. These subtle descriptions kept my fascination for the characters. You can feel the pain they are going through between the lines.
For example Case's yearning for Linda Lee, Rydell's love to Chevette, Cayce and Boone. I think Laney is also in love with someone (Rei Toei?). It's never directly mentioned that they actually love someone, but you just know it. Such emotional stuff is rarely to find in literature because in most cases it's written too obvious and then it loses its magic. So, concerning this point, WG also writes great, subtle romances which mostly are unhappy.

He says that when Rydell and Chevette had sex it wasn't like making love but like making history.

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I asked him about it once, suggested the soup was the Jungian sea of pop-culture. he clearly thought I had apophneia, told me the soup was something he'd been told about, some guy on a ship that made chili that never stopped cooking.

I still like my theory.

This *has* to have been when he told you "you infer too much".

No, he told me that on the Barnes and Noble q&a board. This question I asked him at a reading in 2003. I think I told him his talent was like Laney's talent and he thanked me. i basically asked all the questions because no one would speak up so I just asked whatever I wanted. I asked him about the droopy evil elf hat too. I forget what else. It's surreal, there's a point at which you (or I) don't want to know too much about the artist, or rather "know the artist." If I was a friend of his, like Jack is a friend of his, I don't know that I could enjoy his work the same way.

Maybe I could, not sure.

I can't imagine we'd get on all that well anyway. If nothing else, my "hero" factor for him (like his for Pynchon) would likely get in the way.

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Knowing the chops wouldn't bother me at all, any more than knowing granny's recipe for beef stew.

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Knowing the chops wouldn't bother me at all, any more than knowing granny's recipe for beef stew.

It's not knowing the chops, it would be having a relationship with the creator. It would alter things I think.

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Friends are better than gods.

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You haven't partied with Dionysus.

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