Did y'all hear about Ridley Scott's return to sci-fi with an adaptation of classic novel he's been wanting to do for 20yrs? Rumor has it that it's some Novel called Brave New World, but If it was our perfect dystopia that adaptation should be Neuromancer.

From my understanding him and Gibson were chums back in the day, and old boy Gibson was utterly floored by Blade Runner.

Well I guess it's just a sweet dream If it's already locked down with rookie cowboy Joseph kahn!

P.S. Finally got Spook Country...The Old Man's gotten soft lol But still a good read! Enjoyed characters of Tito and Milgrim the most.

Were they chums? I have heard tell.

Brave New World deserves a good adaptation.

We did hear words to that effect.

We think Neuromancer can't be made today, whether anyone releases a film by that title. It's an empty, echoing quarry. A looted gash.

"Ridley" isn't enough; he's transitive, evolved. You can't reassemble enough Matthew Yurichiches, Trumbulls, or Meads. The state of art, the crucial zeitgeist has passed away.

Change time. Make Neuro Ridley's third, not thirtieth, film, and we're all behind you.

"Some Novel called Brave New World"

Oh dear.

As Gibson tells it, they met in the early nineties (as if they were avoiding each other) and talked a couple of times. I would not say that is chummy.

Considering Ridley's artistic control issues, it may well be he prefers his authors dead, these days.

As for Brave New World, shame on you for using the word dystopia without having knowing about it.

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Originally posted by The Psychophant:
As for Brave New World, shame on you for using the word dystopia without having knowing about it.

lol...I was actually referring to Neuromancer when I said perfect dystopia, pardon me If that sentence is off a bit in terms of gramma, I think I was on my 5th or 6th bottle of Hacker Pschorr. Pretty good German beer, you should check it out! But yeah, must find out what's up with Brave New World though!

With theminx quoting my "Some Novel" and what uberdog said, I get the idea that this Brave New World must be a pretty awesome book!

I get you Metro, it's a shame It couldn't have been his third film. If it was, we probably wouldn't have had Blade Runner. But a past with a Ridley Neuromancer movie instead of a future with a Kahn Neuromanacer is a change in time I think I could blissfully live with

Brave New World could be STUNNING.

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Originally posted by Nwazo:

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Originally posted by The Psychophant:
As for Brave New World, shame on you for using the word dystopia without having knowing about it.

lol...I was actually referring to Neuromancer when I said perfect dystopia, pardon me If that sentence is off a bit in terms of gramma, I think I was on my 5th or 6th bottle of Hacker Pschorr. Pretty good German beer, you should check it out! But yeah, must find out what's up with Brave New World though!

With theminx quoting my "Some Novel" and what uberdog said, I get the idea that this Brave New World must be a pretty awesome book!

Wait, you're serious? You've never heard of Brave New World? Aldous Huxley?

I can understand not having read it. It is an old book. But... never heard of it? Now that makes me feel... old... or something. It'll make me feel better if you say you're a teenager or English isn't your first language.

I would say seminal, rather than "good", although it is a good novel, too.

(I'm trying now to remember where I first heard of the book. I read it in my teens, after having found it in my parents' bookshelf. I think I knew what it was before I picked it up, but now I'm wondering if my mind is playing tricks on me.)

lol,Now I really need to check out this Brave New World. Sorry Corrin San,I wouldn't hack it when it comes to the two assumptions you suggested to appease your pain because I'm neither... although I've lived most of my life in the third World, It seems it's still no excuse to not have heard about this Brave New World. For this I bow my head in shame of my ignorance lol

Putting things in perspective,I actually haven't read that much of fictional novels. besides the Dune books by Frank Herbert and one of the later ones by Brian Herbert. I have quite a modest collection of fiction novels because most of the others (If not all come to think of it) are by William Gibson!

What led me to get myself engrossed in the Sprawl and the Bridge books was The Matrix. Really don't know how I could have found William Gibson's incredible work If it wasn't for dem movies. If only books were as celebrated as much as movies in the main stream media.

Yeah, sorry, that probably sounded terribly elitist. Sometimes I forget that there are many, many people who don't make reading books a central part of their lives. Hanging around the WGB gives you a skewed perspective.

Anyway, basically, if you say "dystopia" two books come to mind immediately (for myself, and I wager for many others round these parts). One is Brave New World, and the other is a book called 1984, by a fellow named George Orwell. So that's why Psychophant was on your case.

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Originally posted by colin:



I would say seminal, rather than "good", although it is a good novel, too.

Seminal. I didn't think he handled the shifting perspectives well at all. His prose was kind of flat too.

1984 was far better as a novel.

I agree with Metro Dynamics. It is my opinion that any Neuromancer film made after perhaps the mid-nineties wouldn't work. The time has passed.

I love me some Neuromancer but I'd honestly rather see Brave New World.

I wish they would write a new movie instead of raiding literature for rehashing.

Thank god Riddley is making Brave New World. . If he teams up with Sid Mead again it could be quite incredible and possibly revive Science Fiction in film.

I'm sorta sad he wasn't doing the new Metropolis remake though (since Blade Runner took a lot from Metro) but I'll settle for Brave. Its good to see him back to his old stuff.

Meanwhile don't worry about Kahn. We'll see what I can do to challenge his adaptation.

I'm torn -- sure, the great Ridley's returning to a genre desperate for originality. The problem is it's . . . desperate for originality. Brave New World seems a "spent trope". At least stylistically.

That doesn't mean it can't be treated right.

More to the point: I doubt Ridley will demand Sydney. Mostly because the latter's fee make him an unrealistic choice, against the starving overachievers Pasadena keeps pumping out.

Both this lament,

"I wish they would write a new movie instead of raiding literature for rehashing."

and this canticle,

" . . . it could be quite incredible and possibly revive Science Fiction in film."

are going to be taken care of by this:



Christmas 2009.

DiCaprio to star in BNW. Oh, I can see it now... he as the Savage, The Beach 2.0! : |

I remember a crappy TV film that twisted it up beyond recognition. I just hope this time they cast someone adequate for Lenina.

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Originally posted by fuldog:
DiCaprio to star in BNW. Oh, I can see it now... he as the Savage, The Beach 2.0! : |

I remember a crappy TV film that twisted it up beyond recognition. I just hope this time they cast someone adequate for Lenina.

That one had Tim Guinee as The Savage and Peter "Eyebrows" Gallagher as the main Alpha guy.

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Originally posted by RUR:
Brave New World 1980

I was tempted to settle down with a glass of crown and fire up this old Brave New World adaptation. But after watching 56 seconds of the opening sequence I think I'll rather not lol

When I finally get to read the book, I wouldn't want the thought of the campy Star Treky music and the bit of what I saw in the costume and set design lingering in my mind as I read. No, that wouldn't be good... at all! Better If I read the book first, then chuckle later as I watch this 1980 version RUR found on the interwebs while Ridley's is being made. From what fuldog said, It's probably just Brave New World in name only!

I had a feeling it was a remake. Blame the producers for that. Metro is correct, the problem is the originality thing and sure having Riddley back is great but in the end we're still producing the same shit again.

It would be way more interesting to see Riddley work on an original idea for a change thats true since ultimately he's been making Adaptations rather than actual expressions. Given his seniority in film he should be able to create ideas rather than rehash old ones. Evident with Nottingham that he's still adapting, even since blade runner days.. Its just sad to see he didn't get to work on Neuro as it could have been his best adaptation.