Ah, glad u share that point of view of Shinchiro Watanabe being capable of the great task! Your right about Johnny Mnemonic, it kinda hindered the possibility of adaptations of other William G's work. But that didn't stop me of owning the DVD! I really can't see Buscemi playing the finn, the finn hardly looks human...and he's a short dude i'll go with Danny devito, but I agree with your choices for the other casts Sammy.

Hey Sammy, Why the hell should the project of making The Neuromancer film be entrusted in your hands? I'll rather play safe and let Ridley Scott do it, William G and Ridley Scott are kinda buddies from what i've read. I read that William G. actually ran out of a screening of Ridley Scott's Blade Runner, afraid that his idea (interms of Cinematography) had Materialized before him but done by someone else.

wouldn't mind audrey tatou as marly.

and maybe scarlett johansson can do angie, cause there must be a younger version of her around. i think if a good enough match was found, that angie and mona should be played by two people, though in the later scenes of MLO perhaps scarlett could do both.

another time i came up with my great casts, but i'm still into viggo mortenson as turner. rachel griffiths or cate blanchett as 3Jane.
and the duke of edinburgh as ashpool.
plus charles dance as deane.
riviera needs to be pretty. maybe jude law if he had better hair.
and i suggested royston green (is that his name, the guy from 'wire in the blood') as the finn recently.
petal needs to be more ray winstone. he's a big guy.
maybe my fave clive owen could be swain.
and george clooney as robin lanier?
and i'd be willing to swap to billy crudup for eddie.

I read on another thread (regarding a PR movie, go check it out if you want) that Neuromancer should be done in a Natural Born Killers sort of style, which I have to say I disagree with. Natural Born Killers was just a visual mess, it was trying much too hard to be... wierd, for lack of a better word. That sort of messy style would never do in this sort of picture. The style should be very clear (though the film itself should have a very gritty feel to it... except maybe in freeside) At least the stuff in the villa straylight should be done in a more Teryy Gilliam/Jeneut & Carot visual style (think City of Lost Children, not Alien: Resurrection). Any way, just thought I'd say that.

Oh yeah, and Jude Law probably wouldn't work as Rivera. He's pretty enough, but not quite in the proper fashion. He's too nice looking, and Rivvera is a drug-addicted, betraying, cruel, manipulative, powerhungry dickhead. I just can't see Jude Law pulling that off. My vote goes to Ryan Phillippe, but I think I may have said that. And I really don't get how you(Nwazo, this time) couldn't see Steve Buscemi as the Finn. All right, he doesn't look like he was designed in a wind tunnel, but he could pull off the attitude right, and that what's really important. But then, I never would have seen Sam Rockwell playing Zaphod Beeblebrox, (and especially not Mos Def as Ford Prefect) so I may not be the most qualified person to make such a decision. But yes, if anyone that's not me should direct it (and I stand by my nomination of myself, because I am the greatest director to never have made a film) my vote would totally go for Shinichiro Watanabe. Although I have to say that Mamoru Oshii has had some experience in the live-action genre (and I still don't endorse Neuromancer as an anime), and though Avalon was incredibly slow moving, it was, visually speaking, more compelling than just about any movie I've seen in a long time. And I'm sure he's a fan, judging from Ghost in the Shell.

I mentioned earlier the guy that was the bad guy in Big Trouble in little China as Deane, but I was mistaken as to who that was. I was actually thinking of the other old Chinese guy, the one that was Benny Chan in Lethal Weapon 4. He's been in other stuff, but that's the most recent role that anyone migfht remember that I can think of at the moment. Although, the more I think about, the less I see him as Julie. I don't know why I thought of him before.
Oh, and if you still don't believe me about Steve Buscemi, rent Reservior Dogs and Rising Sun. Reservior Dogs that sort of attitude he has, and Rising Sun, well, he's a character called "the Weasel". That should convince you.
Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa should also be in there somewhere, just because he's cool. He played Shang Tsung in Mortal Kombat. Anyweay, I'm rambling now, and I'm going to stop.

I will definately have to agree with Mamoru Oshii and the crew from production I.G. as another ideal choice for an Anime Adaptation of Neuromancer Sammy! You know Mamoru Oshii's "Ghost in the shell 2:Innocence" is up for the "Palme D'or" at the Cannes film festival this year? No Anime has ever been nominated for such a prestigious award! I just have to keep on insisting how Anime will be such an awesome way to adapt Neuromancer. Just imagine how cool a part like when Molly and the panther modern's with the help of case aswell brought about Organised chaos to the SenseNet building done Anime style with prodigy's "firestarter" playing as the soundtrack for that scene

Anime could be easier way of doing Neuromancer than doing a live acton movie. Maroru Oshii could direct it in ether case. Maroru Oshii' movie "Avalon" is the second best cyberpunk I've ever seen, with "Strange Days" being the best cyberpunk movie. Although I have not seen "Ghost in the shell 2:Innocence", I have seen the the first volume of "Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex" directed by Kenji Kamiyama and I think it is better than the first movie. Kamiyama would be another person who could proably do the book justice.

The last time the Neuromance was in the works Chris Cunningham was going to be the director for it, as some of you know he did the Aphex Twin videos "Windowlicker" and "Come To Daddy" and the Bjork video "All is Full of Love" which was also a visual test for the robots in "A.I." he did for the late Stanley Kubrick. When Chris Cunningham was going to make the movie, he was going to exclusively use Aphex Twin for the music, a much better choice than Prodigy or a prodigy knock off.

Anime could be easier way of doing Neuromancer than doing a live action movie. Maroru Oshii could direct it in ether case. Maroru Oshii' movie "Avalon" is the second best cyberpunk I've ever seen, with "Strange Days" being the best cyberpunk movie. Although I have not seen "Ghost in the shell 2: Innocence", I have seen the the first volume of "Ghost in the Shell: Stand Alone Complex" directed by Kenji Kamiyama and I think it is better than the first movie. Kamiyama would be another person who could probably do the book justice.

The last time the Neuromancer was in the works Chris Cunningham was going to be the director for it, as some of you know he did the Aphex Twin videos "Windowlicker" and "Come To Daddy" and the Bjork video "All is Full of Love" which was also a visual test for the robots in "A.I." he did for the late Stanley Kubrick. When Chris Cunningham was going to make the movie, he was going to exclusively use Aphex Twin for the music, a much better choice than Prodigy or a prodigy knock off.

If Neuromancer is made as an anime it should be done as a series for TV or a series of OVAs. Special care should be taken not to make it look too bright and cheery, as well as the voice actors not too perky, happy, or overly emotional as voice actors tend to do. An advantage of doing it as an anime is you do not have to spend tons of cash on actors, unless you go the way that Lord Of the Rings did and use a bunch of relatively unknown or up and coming actors to save money.

Yo supercide, Give me some more info on that movie "Strange Days". Like when was it made, is it Anime or live action? I'll hunt it down this weekend
Until I hear this Aphex twin stuff, i'm still sticking to my *Fire Starter*

Strange Days.

yes. hunt it down this weekend. in fact, you don't even need to bother renting it. just buy it.

No, rent Strange Days before you buy it. I won't have it in my house.

Another Gibsonesque movie is The Million Dollar Hotel. Complete with Bono Vox cameo. Try that one, too.

Aaaagh!! Thanx for the link charmakarmacat, I am confused with the disbelief that i haven't watched this flick especially in the fact that it was Written by ma boy *James Cameron*

I'll take your advise tigerstripes , cant risk any more movies like Johnny Mnemonic finding their way to my collection...Gotta play it safe!

sorry, but I don't care what anybody says. BUY STRANGE DAYS!! It's one of my favorite movies. I guarantee you James Cameron adn Kathryn Bighelow both read alot of WG stuff before making this movie, and it was probably inspired by Fragments of a Hologram Rose. And I have to say Neuromancer should be done live action, though it could do with some animated stuff spliced in (like in Kill Bill, only not quite so arbitrary). Like the scene on the beach tyhat Neuromancer brings him to, or all the stuff on the simstim link. I was listening to the commentary in Strange Days, and I got the idea that it's ridiculously hard to do that sort of POV shots. But if it was going to be animated (I'm not saying anime exclusively, because after all it is an american, or canadian if you will, property, after all), it would be better done as a series than a movie. Buty my vote's still in for live action. I just think there's so much cool stuff you could do with it.

The movie Strange Days came out in 1995. It stars Ralph Fiennes, Angela Bassett, Juliette Lewis, Tom Sizemore, Michael Wincott, Vincent D'Onofrio, directed bt Kathryn Bigelow, the screenwriters are James Cameron and Jay Cocks, and was distributed by 20th Century Fox

Aphex Twin, a.k.a. Richard D. James and a.k.a. Ploygon Window, is a British experimental techno musican. His music can be discribed as soothing, playful, trippy and eccentric to harsh, fractured, eerie, and ominous. His best known singles "Come to Daddy," "Window Licker" and "Didgeridoo" all differ from one another.
for more info you can go Artist Direct page on Aphex Twin

Fellaz...just finished watching "Strange Days". Very good movie, but certainly wont be making it in my collection. Interms of the genre "Cyberpunk" its definately one of the best out there, but I still have to stick with my Matrix Trilogy being the best in the Genre
Strange Days compared to the William Gibson world, Is just a bunch of kids that were playing with a simstim abit too much. Which in my opinion barely scratches the surface of the Grandeur that is Neuromancer.

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Aphex Twin, a.k.a. Richard D. James and a.k.a. Ploygon Window, is a British experimental techno musican. His music can be discribed as soothing, playful, trippy and eccentric to harsh, fractured, eerie, and ominous. His best known singles "Come to Daddy," "Window Licker" and "Didgeridoo" all differ from one another.
for more info you can go Artist Direct page on Aphex Twin

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Yo supercide, I'm going to try and see if I can download somma that. Avalon escaped me...but the hunt will continue

AVALON...what a mind bender
SPOILER WARNING If you haven't watched the flick I suggest stop reading now!
I definately had a more interesting experience watching it compared to strange days. But as Sammy said, it does move kind of slow. Can someone tell me what the hell happened to Ash (Heroine) at the end of the flick? Maaaan...that little girl (Ghost) at the end gave me the creeps.
The movie did share some similarities with some things in the sprawl books. Like the character Murphy, who was stuck to some life support system in a clinic cause he chose to exist permanently in Avalon. That reminds me of The Count "Bobby Newmack" who was living in the Aleph.

THE CAST:

Edward Norton as Case
Audrey Quock as Linda Lee
Milla Jovovich as Molly
Danny DeVito as the Finn
Eric Cantona as Terzibashjian
Vincent Gallo as Armitage
John Leguizamo as Riviera
Ekin Cheng as Hideo
Djimon Honsou as Maelcum
Max Von Sydow as Ashpool
Isabelle Huppert as Marie-France Tessier
Mary Louise Parker or Chloë Sevigny or Laurel Holloman as 3Jane
Michael Caine as Julius Deane
Leo Fitzpatrick as Lupus Yonderboy
Billy Bob Thornton as voice of McCoy Pauley
William Gibson as the voice of Wintermute

Vincent Cassel, Monica Belucci and Daniel Auteuil as Roland, Pierre and Michele from Turing

and while we're at it...

Michael Biehn or Hugh Jackman as Turner
Misha Barton or Mia Kirshner as Angie Mitchell/Mona
Thomas Ian Nicholas as Bobby Newmark
Gary Busey as Conroy
Ving Rhames or Michael Clarke Duncan as Lucas
Roger Guenveur Smith or Courtney B Vance as Beauvoir

Director - Darren Aronosky/Paul Thomas Anderson/Ted Demme


Neuromancer

Case - Jonny Lee Miller/Ryan Phillippe
Linda Lee - Michelle Rodriguez
Molly - Bridget Moynahan/Sienna Guillory
Ratz - Joe Morton/Gary Oldman
Peter Riviera - Jason Flemyng/Gael García Bernal
Julius Deane - Scott Glenn/Mickey Rourke
Finn - Jason Statham
Terzibashjian - Cliff Curtis
Dixie Flatline - Dr. Dre/
Armitage - Ralph Fiennes/Vincent D'Onofrio
Hideo - Tadanobu Asano
Lupus Yonderboy - Johnny Depp/Jordi Mollà
3 Jane - Kirsten Dunst/Christian Bale/Ginger Lynn Allen
Ashpool - Eric Bana/Mark Ruffalo
Maelcum - Alexandre Rodrigues, or some extra from the Matrix Reloaded
Gerald Chin - Brian Thompson
Roland - Tricky aka Adrian Thaws
Pierre - Jean Reno
Michele - Tchéky Karyo/Brittany Ashland



you have the right to remain silent
*punch*
you have the right to an attorney
*kick*
you have the right to be dead
*blammity, blammity, fall in vat of acid*

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universal & noh you've made some good picks.

viggo mortensen has to be either armitage or turner. i don't mind which.

ashpool i've always imagined as the duke of edinburgh so eric bana doesn't fit my picture.

kirsten dunst is a little bit too full faced, and unless they convince her to wear fake teeth i don't know how the sleek rich thing will come across.

riviera: thought he was a blondie, maybe that was just me, i've been wondering if damon albarn could do it. was there ever any mention of an accent? he was german wasn't he?

and i wouldn't mind sascha baren cohen (sp?) (Ali G) as Jersey Bastion.

Finn *must* be played by Pete Postlethwaite

Ashpool (how about Jim Broadbent, just for fun)

Molly - Pascale Bussières or Carole Laure