Save your time Hollywood, i'll send you the $20 that would have gone towards my ticket (or alternatively, $10 as the cash equivalent of the time i'd have spent downloading it) if you just spare us the agony of seeing a great book raped by a talentless and weak director.

If he managed to make Tokyo look like a cheap CGI city in Britney Spears' music video (and thats 50% of his directing experience right there), imagine the epic raping he'll give The Sprawl and Chiba City.

I registered (well, logged in with bugmenot) just to complain about this, but also cause i'm curious, what exactly goes through authors heads? If I had a property like this, it'd be comparable to my daughter, with a movie deal being marriage. Only the best would be worthy if you follow the metaphor here.

This movie will be as bad as the graphic novel, if not worse. So much potential and it might as well have been given to some random youtube user for all the directing experience that'll be behind it.

ugh, /rant

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Originally posted by RUR:
Can you picture the poster?
"From the director of Torque"?
What the hell!!!!
Ignorant hicks.
Fck it. It's hopeless.
Damn.
Hollywood is killing the movies.
May they go to deepest hell.
Soon.

LMAO...alright, I think it's petition time folks! FANS UNITE!!!

ha. petition.

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what exactly goes through authors heads?

I can't say for sure, but I assume our Man is thinking something like : "Those bastards... They did it! Damn them all to hell!"

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Originally posted by synaesthesia:
I registered (well, logged in with bugmenot) just to complain about this, but also cause i'm curious, what exactly goes through authors heads? If I had a property like this, it'd be comparable to my daughter, with a movie deal being marriage. Only the best would be worthy if you follow the metaphor here.

See the thing is, fathers (in Western countries) don't get to decide who their daughters marry, nor who they choose to fuck. There was a little revolution that stopped such nonsense.

If you treat a novel as an author's child, I think you have to view the date of publication as the day the baby has grown to an adult and moves away from home. It's on it's own.

My guess is that WG is secretly laughing about the latest attempt to film Neuromancer. Chuckling, "Wait until they attempt to write the screen play!" I really doubt that this latest deal will come to fruition.

Anybody here got Pro-Access to imdb.com to see the latest on the Pattern Recognition film? It was last updated on 16 November, 2006, where the status was changed to "In active development". Nothing has happened since then, so it seems like it is stuck in a rut.

Movies are works (artistic or otherwise) in their own right. The book and the film are separate entities. Given the fact that much of Neuromancer has, in some fashion, come to pass, it will be difficult to make a film seem as innovative as the novel.

Really, we've been seeing iterations of Neuromancer for the last 23 years since its release. Anything they would do now would have to take a bold visionary who makes looks on the project not as cyberpunk but as a kind of 21st century poetry.

It's been my feeling for awhile that a CGI version, akin to Final Fanatsy, would be the way to go. Make the true innovation found in the book itself reflected in cutting edge technologies and distribution. the process by which the film is made must be edge and lots of it. Something like Curron's Children of Men.

One can't simply put the book on screen and say, "Look, the internet before the internet! Isn't that awesome?!?!"

Any film would need to be interpreted by someone as talented as WG but with his/her own unique vision.

Otherwise I'll just keep the one in my head, thanks.

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Originally posted by Nwazo:

LMAO...alright, I think it's petition time folks! FANS UNITE!!!

Alas, that will fall upon the the monkey with his hands over his ears oft refferred to as the marketing department in studio parlance.

Otherwise I'll just keep the one in my head, thanks.

The ones in our heads... You know, the one in Gibson's head when he reads the thing is, I suppose, the only definitive cinematic version of Neuromancer. I wish they'd hurry that Singularity along so we could see it. That said, it probably doesn't rate in the top 10,000 as far as richly or compellingly imagined versions of the story and you'd probably hate it. We've all directed Neuromancer before. Mine is killer, surely way better than Gibson's (the man was drawing on a duff soundtrack of Steely Dan and Springsteen, c'mon). Admit it, no one could do a better job casting and directing that film than you, right?

My Neuromancer, and yours, and Gibson's, and everyone else's are mere cut-and-paste jobs assembled from the gnarly audio-visual debris we've each been exposed to in our respective lifetimes. That's what kills adaptations of novels. I think one of the things that makes Jane Austin films so commercially and critically successful these days is that no one reads that crap any more so no one is really scandalized that, y'know, Keira Knightly's playing Elizabeth.

So what's my point? Keep your expectations tiny and you'll go through life without being so whiny? I still wanna see the movie.

good point indeed. However much i want to forget the potential disater to come, i'm still curious at this outcome (if there even is one....look what happened to Pattern R.). Maybe we'll be surprised. If i leave the theaters without throwing up, maybe ill be happy. And yeah, my "Neuromancer movie" in my head is way kick ass than anyone else's..I got scenes that r breathtaking.

Some hope?

IMDb doesn't list the movie. This usually means that is still a rumour that yet has to see the day of light. And in this case, hopefully never will.

of course IMDB isn't all seeing, there is a film showing in the big city centre cinema in glasgow at the moment, which has absolutely no entry on IMDB at all. though of course, commenting on hot of the press bollywood films is a tangent.

regardless, lets face it, for all the naive talk of petitions or boycotts, i guarantee there is a high percentage of people here will go and see it no matter what.

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Originally posted by remotepush:
of course IMDB isn't all seeing, ...

Yes. But a movie like this would get listed by the American Film Institute. That would give the rumor some substance, and the IMDb would catch on to it.

However, should this movie really emerge to the day of light, I recommend that it is best viewed on an old 14" tube monitor in low quality DivX cam copy, downloaded viva bitTorrent.

"The answer I always fall back on is to quote Raymond Chandler.
People said: 'Raymond, don't you feel devastated by how Hollywood has destroyed your books?'
And he would take them into his study, point to the bookshelf and say, 'There they are. Look, they're fine.'
The film has got nothing to do with my work. It has a coincidental title to a book I've done and they've given me a huge wedge of money. No problem with that."

- Alan Moore.

(Though I'm pretty sure this quote predates the insanely bad "The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen" and "V For Vendetta", from which he asked his name to be removed)

Who is writing the script?

aww, no peter weir on pattern recognition.

Too bad. He's good.

To make a good Gibson film, it would take more than a great director. It would take a really great producer, someone who has an inkling of what the book is about. One who has the clout to keep the studio off the director's back, to get him what he needs, to reign him (or the actors) in if they get off track. It's a big circus to manage.

I don't know why, but Neuromancer doesn't seem like a book that it would be insanely expensive to do well.

Perhaps. Just leave out some of the spectacle (like the Sprawl descriptions), film in Japan as is, as I'm sure Shinjuku is still impressive enough. I think a real thinking through of the cyberspace sequences could eliminate a lot of potential cheese (it really doesn't need to look like lawnmower man). But don't forget that we do get into *space* at the end, with Case doing the Straylight run in zero-g for most of it; you'd also have to figure out how the inside of a toroidal space station would look.

I agree, but the visual challenges are there.

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But don't forget that we do get into *space* at the end, with Case doing the Straylight run in zero-g for most of it; you'd also have to figure out how the inside of a toroidal space station would look.

Space is easy. You just poke holes in black construction paper. Hollywood could really use me.