Yeah, I need a wealthy patron.

Maybe Bigend is looking for help.

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Originally posted by UberDog:
Yeah, I need a wealthy patron.

Maybe Bigend is looking for help.

Wealthy patron my aching Oscar.

You need a straight up million bucks. Don't sell yourself short!

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Wealthy patron my aching Oscar.

You need a straight up million bucks. Don't sell yourself short!

UberDog is in good shape...

I would pay twice that for a less complaining wife... You know that Italian movies from the 60ies... just like that.

I know you don't sell shoes....

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Originally posted by cbarreto:

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Wealthy patron my aching Oscar.

You need a straight up million bucks. Don't sell yourself short!

UberDog is in good shape...

I would pay twice that for a less complaining wife... You know that Italian movies from the 60ies... just like that.

I'll be your Fellini.

Shit, I'll be your wife1 I need monies and quick!

Where are all the closeted New York Governors when you need them?

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Originally posted by Boogerhead:


I know you don't sell shoes....

Not anymore I don't.

HimnottakkatoU,pooperdag.

Who isn't an otaku, Boog?

Maybe he's an otaku of non-otakuness, you ever consider that?

He's sinister that way.

Joseph Khan showed up in an interview in the Dangerous Days Making of Blade Runner thing. His being there was kind of random, but it seemed like he got the point of bladerunner.

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Originally posted by Archie:
Joseph Khan showed up in an interview in the Dangerous Days Making of Blade Runner thing. His being there was kind of random, but it seemed like he got the point of bladerunner.

He didn't explain his understanding of the style however, thats where I am concerned since Gibson already has done most of the dialog. We're mostly concerned with Kahn's previous work, this clearly does not state a portfolio of a skilled Cyberpunk director, but rather someone that has a habit of over exaggerating the word "cool".

Its not a matter of "Getting" the story rather its a matter of actually doing it without making it corny or over the top (a prime example would be the Video game of Neuromancer where it actually makes the story funny and is WAY over the top)

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He didn't explain his understanding of the style however, thats where I am concerned since Gibson already has done most of the dialog.

I didn't realize that Gibson did the script.

Eeep I sorta messed up there, leave me alone it was like 9:00am when I wrote that :P

My point was that the book already establishes the dialog so it shouldn't be uber hard to translate that into a screenplay and then onto the actors. I was trying to say nailing that Cyberpunk environment was going to be probably his hardest challenge (that and trying to get Hayden to Emote properly ).

A masterful director like Lynch thrashed Dune (visually exquisite for the most part, but you had to have read the book or have libretto to understand what the hell was the story).

So who knows? Besides, the final focus group cut of Johnny M that we saw in the theaters provided almost all the methods for how NOT to film a classic Gibson tale, so this music vid guy has a leg up in that respect.

And poor used-to-be-Annakin, who knows? Case himself is mostly a cipher. More important, I think, is who will be the psychic image projector psycho dude, the Zen archer bodyguard of the Teshier-Ashpools, Molly, of course, the Russian personality patch-job, and that they Keep the Visuals Simple, Stupid.

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Originally posted by kenmeer

and that they Keep the Visuals Simple, Stupid.

It should be easy if you are just mimic post-modernism and its mechanics. Avoid Sci-fi as much as possible and you'll do fine .

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Avoid Sci-fi as much as possible and you'll do fine .

Avoid Sci-Fi: the new sci-fi realism.

Sounds about right, good formula that

I wonder if I'll ever get around to proving that though. As its been said before, proof is in the putting. (or pudding if you're hungry.. mmm thats good proof!)

I just want to say that Post-Modern is 1980, what we live in now is contemporary, it is smugness that thinks its better than what it was.. Neuromancer should be about going back to originality, back to reinvention of style that existed in the 1980s (it was very similar to the renaissance in that they used original ideas but romanticized them, made them relevant but still maintained what made them great) Ideally someone doing a visual adaptation in the very same way that such artists during the renaissance of the classic could very well be the same way in which Cyberpunk can be presented dynamic and in a way provide it with some current ground.. and yet in such images of the renaissance we can still tell that this is a classical setting. Same applies to Neuromancer in that we're maintaining the time when it was thought of, but at the same time making it appeal and seem natural to a more enlightened (or in some cases less) audience. Neuromancer is the 1980s being reflected on - that is what the book has become and this is why people say Cyberpunk is dead because its a reflection. Are the classics dead? no.. people still study Plato, Aristotle, ect and those were all applied to the renaissance, painted for the visual interpretation. New Media presents us with the opportunity to actually combine visual with the written word and this is where I think we can make the most of Neuromancer - where we're presenting it in a way that no only visually makes sense but applies to whats going on in the book, and then we've got to keep the audience interested while its all coming together. If you fail at this then it was all for nothing in the end. This will determine if I think Neuromancer is a crap or brilliant film. Let me make my game version though cause it needs to happen, the first time wasn't serious enough.

Both myself and Kahn are working on something that is dead - so the style and themes are already redundant. Hey fuck it! lets be proud of it, worked during the renaissance didn't it?

I have no idea how the fuck I came up with this academic little rant but I hope I made some sense I'm sorta shooting for answers to see if I'm on the right track.

I think my theory works well though because we are dealing with the same philosophical step here. Neuromancer will always be a reflection of the future if that makes any sense at all.

I don't see Cyberpunk as anything more than a speculative filling in of the blanks. Some cool stuff resulted, but it was to some degree about a future that we are now beginning to live. That's why it's not that important to me if the "cyberpunk" aspect of Neuro is intact.

I really am beginning not to care. I love the book, and film, in general, has begun to tire me.

I wish I could not see the thing, but I will. I will be compelled to see it.

Sigh.

I can't wait for Hollywood to break and some more original talent to see the light of an eager audience's eyes as they meander out of Universals Cave and go, "Wow, look what we were missing..."

I'm going to agree with Uber. All this speculation is really pointless. I honestly need to get some work done so that we can start bitching about my work instead.

Perfect. Close 'er up, Tiger!