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a bit old but super important

I just heard a lecture from mit on hydrogen and how tightly bonded the h atoms are. I guess in just plain hydrogen they're pretty widely spaced, so you need these huge gas tanks to hold much in your car...

ammonia binds the h way tighter... then these guys in denmark made an ammonia pill. enough h fits so you only need the same size tank as now on gasoline.

pills in your gas tank? hmm I guess youd go to the ammonia station
 
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it just begs the application:

"Weaponised Ammonia"

fuuuuuuuck that!


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on another topic I just admitted I was wrong in an arguement.

this greenhouse supplier sells gear to make your co2 550ppm


right now the world is at 387ppm but the good news is plants actually grow better up to 550.

we wont be there for about 58 years at the rate we're going.

homeostasis may save the day if the other weirdness doesnt get us in the meantime
 
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Originally posted by Boogerhead:
it just begs the application:

"Weaponised Ammonia"

fuuuuuuuck that!


Why bother? The stuff's volatile enough as it is. A nasty look is enough. If we're going that route, why not go the whole hog and stuff in some mercury fulminate? That makes your car uh, safer. No wreckage. Or the wreckage is scattered when it explodes.
Something like that.
 
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the antidote to the 550ppm article

in this it says that 400ppm (where we'll be in um 2011) is the point of saturation where the natural plants can absorb no more co2.

that's soon.
 
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There are other factors however - plants become net producers of CO2 when stressed by say, warming.
 
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still it was good news to me that they actually pump co2 into commercial greenhouses...

on another topic here's a good piece on what gets cut out by politicians when the un. greenhouse reports are written.


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The scientists fight back, but they always have to make some concessions. The report released on Friday, for example, was shorn of the warning that “North America is expected to experience locally severe economic damage, plus substantial ecosystem, social and cultural disruption from climate change related events”(3). David Wasdell, an accredited reviewer for the panel, claims that the summary of the science the IPCC published in February was purged of most of its references to “positive feedbacks”: climate change accelerating itself(4).
 
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Green power in more senses than one:

http://masseynews.massey.ac.nz/2007/Press_Releases/04-04-07.html

(thanks to my friend Mark Patterson for the linkage)


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D'oh! jinx, greendreams... didn't see your post before I posted mine. In all fairness, Mark sent it to me on the 6th. Smile


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Black Google would save 750 Megawatt-hours per year. I think this is only true for CRTs rather than LCDs.
 
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There are two people I've heard of who hold patents for engines or devices that make hydrogen out of water. One is in the U.S. There's another in the Philippenes who converted his new Toyota to run on hydro made as needed, from seawater. Stuff just keeps comin' down the pike; but it gets suppressed as quickly as folks think it up. Go to www. americanatigravity.com and check out the links.


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whoops.... sorry that's www.americanantigravity.com


I have lived long enough to know that there is no such thing as paranoia. Not in the 21st century. no. Paranoia is just another word for ignorance.-Hunter S. Thompson
 
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also...www.zenncars.com is interesting, however I have a need for speed. BTW 2006 ZENN won the Michelin Challenge Bibendum gold medal in the urban vehicle catagory.


I have lived long enough to know that there is no such thing as paranoia. Not in the 21st century. no. Paranoia is just another word for ignorance.-Hunter S. Thompson
 
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There's another in the Philippenes who converted his new Toyota to run on hydro made as needed


ah Daniel Dingle and Phillipine water car. They have a yahoo list that I've been on for a year or two... One member from france flew down there and saw the car. Said they smelled gasoline at the exhaust pipe.

The water car is one of my favorite web myths. I really want to believe such a thing is possible, but it just defies thermodynamics. We had a big rant on it here last year. I think I finally understand how hydrogen needs to be bound into a compound to pack down enough for a tank of fuel to take you far, but that binding agent has to take VERY LITTLE energy to get the hydrogen back out. That's why ammonia seems to be winning. As far as I can tell the energy required to get 100k of hydrogen out of water is about the same as 100k worth of battery or gasoline. In other words super efficient electolysis is a myth or we'd be using it in power stations not in a car...
 
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This is not an initiative, just an example of idiocy.

The European Championship football cup final is in Athens this year. This was decided a long time ago. The semi-final round is now being played and the chances are that the final is going to be between 2 English teams, in fact there is a good chance that the final will be played between 2 teams from the North West of England, whose stadiums are only 33.3 miles apart, by road.

So it is likely that 10's of thousands of fans are going to make a 4,000 mile return trip to watch their team play the team from the neighbouring city.

Even if an English team end up playing AC Milan (the other semi-finalist), Athens is 1,000 miles the wrong side of Milan for it to be a sensible place to hold the final.

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an intersting article on abrupt climate change events
 
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this is a good idea.There's a lot of greehouse gas saved if stop signs are replaced by traffic circles
 
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