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Gromit
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He compares the policy of detaining suspects without charge or trial to events under the apartheid regime in South Africa.

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"Whoever imagined that you would hear from the United States and from Britain the same arguments for detention without trial that were used by the apartheid government?"


Indeed.


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"It may be said with rough accuracy that there are three stages in the life of a strong people. First, it is a small power, and fights small powers. Then it is a great power, and fights great powers. Then it is a great power, and fights small powers, but pretends that they are great powers, in order to rekindle the ashes of its ancient emotion and vanity. After that, the next step is to become a small power itself."
--GK Chesterton, "Heretics"
 
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Kinda like the Inquisition...

*runs*


The Lithos School of Curiousity is now enrolling
 
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What is it that's frightening, that powerful nations are doing it now?

I don't see why everyone is surprised. In fact, I'm willing to bet this has been going on for a long time without people knowing.

I don't thinks things have changed in this regard, I think the information has simply begun flowing the other way.


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We knew.

It's just that we don't have to pretend not to know anymore.


Lithos made me do it
 
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It's been known, it's been reported (usually on the fringes), not really news, and it's not just one country that has done it in the past.

What is baffling today is the open discussion on the merits and attempts at justification of what is an inhuman, barbarous act.
 
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I agree the difference is between hiding what is known to be an evil act, and presenting an evil act as a good one. That is where the horror begins.


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cb4(r2)3t0
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"Whoever imagined that you would hear from the United States and from Britain the same arguments for detention without trial that were used by the apartheid government?"


Well, these arguments were used by Stalin, were used by Hitler, were used by Mussolini.

These arguments were used in Spain, Chile, Argentina and Brazil.

These arguments were used everywhere and whenever Democracy was ruined.

And know what's worse? The outcomes of this kind of "legal action" are too well known...


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"law" only works for those who can afford a bulletproof defense.


As far as I'm concerned, I prefer silent vice to ostentatious virtue.
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What is baffling today is the open discussion on the merits and attempts at justification of what is an inhuman, barbarous act.


And for all that I abhor that this has come to pass in terms of it being condoned by our supreme leader, it mayhaps be a good thing we are discussing it. Open communication works in strange ways. And if there are things for which the street finds its own uses, democratic free speech must be among them?


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