And Connery in the first two movies (Dr. No, and especially From Russia With Love) is untouchable. Hope the new guy's films are good.

Moore was a clothes horse. Oddly, the way the character was written at that time, he was what was needed as a better actor would have made it obvious that Bond is a complete arsehole. See, for example, Connery in Diamonds Are Forever. Connery plays the role very well and consequently Bond is impossible to like.

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And Connery in the first two movies (Dr. No, and especially From Russia With Love) is untouchable. Hope the new guy's films are good

amen to that.

and i am blond and fuck blond jokes. i've had it up to way past here with em and i reserve the right to kick up a stink.

Connery is, was, and always will be THE MAN.

Brosnan did an excellent job, Dalton was forgettable, Moore was love-or-hate but either way, his Bond was parodic. I've not seen Lazenby's movie, but I might check it out.

I haven't seen the new guy act, so I'll keep an open mind. Interesting that Hugh Jackman turned the gig down - he could have been rather good.

It's like Ozzy's guitarists: there's no point in comparing them to Randy, it's what they bring to the table.

IMHO.

Marilyn Monroe had blonde hair
Paris Hilton has blonde hair
Hardy Kruger had blonde hair

Daniel Craig has fair hair

But then the news writers couldn't run the easy headline and might have to resort to greater skill. Imagine that!

[Footnote. I'm not getting into a discussion of "real blond" or "fake blond" )

Footnote 2. Even the dictionary is against me... I've just checked and no-one agrees with me. This means I have to face the sorry truth....

Everyone else is wrong.

and also.....

yep, I liked Connery as well. I read the books about the same time as I saw the films and Bond in the books is much more unpleasant than the film ones. (theres a good bit in Casino Royale where someones lips have been stapled together and Bond has to remove them. He aint very compassionate about it!).

Bond on screen is now an entity on his own. I'm not sure how much you can change it before it becomes just another action film.

I'm sorry... you guys didn't like Dalton as Bond?!

Timothy Dalton's Bond was like Frank Miller's Dark Knight.

"It is perhaps appropriate that this film was recently shown on British television during the same weekend that saw the return of "Dr Who" to our screens, as it seems to me that that series and the Bond films have a lot in common. Both first saw the light of day in the early sixties, and both enjoyed considerable success throughout the sixties and seventies and into the early eighties. In both cases, the series was kept going by the device of having a succession of actors play the main character. Both depended upon a subtle balance between genuinely exciting plots and tongue-in-cheek humour. And both series seemed to go into a decline in the late eighties and appeared to have come to an end in the same year, 1989. (An attempt was made to revive both formulae in the mid-nineties, with greater success in the case of Bond than of the Doctor).

In both cases the cause of the decline lay in an upsetting of the balance. "Dr Who" became too camp and self-mocking during the Sylvester McCoy era, with the result that the programme contained too much comedy and too little excitement. In the case of the Bond films, Roger Moore also came close to falling into this trap on occasions and in his last, sub-standard film "A View to a Kill" fell headlong into it. The producers of the series seem to have recognised this danger, because Timothy Dalton, with his very different approach to the role, was clearly hired to redress the balance. In his first outing, "The Living Daylights" (a better film than its immediate predecessor) this approach was reasonably successful. In "Licence to Kill" however, he went too far in the opposite direction and made the character too dark and brooding." - IMDB, James Hitchcock, Tunbridge Wells, England

Well, I disagree on the "...too dark and brooding", bit. You can never be too dark and brooding.

What will kill the series, however, is if they let Halle Berry do anything else.

Dude, if Live and Let Die can't kill that series, nothing can.

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Interesting that Hugh Jackman turned the gig down - he could have been rather good.

i think he's just deep down way too nice

(have a good jackman story, a friend of my sis used to be "cooee koala" for a wilderness group and she never went anywhere without her trusty human, ranger hugh! cooee (in civvies) had a party with a vegetable animal theme, you had to come with a novelty dish. dear hugh brought a pumpkin snake, mashed pumpkin made in to a snakish shape. he left the plate behind at the end of the night, and cooee had a series of annoyed calls for the next few months from one of hugh's family with an incomplete dining set. the plate never made its way home.)

see, too nice.

I think, Splitters, you underestimate modern scriptwriters. And Halle Berry.

Yeah, Hugh just does seem nice. To warm, not cold enough ("Why are you so cold?" "It's what keeps me alive." "No, it's what keeps you alone."). Damn Foxtel ads.

I think Craig will do it OK.

Russel Crowe was going round the rumour mill - now there would've been a sight. Heh. R wouldn't even have to trick out his phone, just reinforce the case so it doesn't shatter on impact. He might be ok, unless the evil henchmen are Coffs Harbour bouncers.

Jude Law...aahahaha. Kid looks about ten years old.

"So, Mr. Bond, here we are. I'm about to blow up Disneyland, and hear you are, ironically tied with your love interest to the very weapon that will be doing the blowing."

"You won't get away with this, Lithos."

"Oh, but I am. Unless, of course, there's some last ditch gimmick you'd like to throw at me?"

"There is."

"Mmm, yes?"

"I...I shall hold my breath....FOREVER!"

"Very well, go ahead."

*holds breath*

*awkward silence*

"Meh. See you in hell, Bond."

Mr Crowe would make a damn fine Bond villain, methinks.

So would Alf from Home and Away.

"Garn, gerroutttaityouflamin'mongrel of a secret agent, you.

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Jude Law...aahahaha. Kid looks about ten years old

a 10 year old kid who's going bald.

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Originally posted by lithos:
I do like that Australia's the only country outside UK that's had a Bond. (Pierce is Irish, Dalton Welsh. Guess where the others came from).

I think you want to hear the answer "Jolly Old England", but the angry men in kilts stomping around in my DNA are forcing me to point out that Connery, the original Bond, is Scottish.

It may have its own bizarrely shaped parliament these days, but Scotland's still in the UK, ac.

Moore's the only English one. Well, and Niven, if you want to get Trivial Pursuit about it.

But so is Wales, Mr. Bond. So is Wales.

Perhaps lithos, AC, and all concerned need to agree upon definitions for country, nation, and state to make the conversation easier.

Well, not really - Lith specifically said the UK, which includes Wales, Scotland, England and Northern Ireland. But not the Republic of Ireland, which is where Brosnan was born, although there seems to be some confusion as to which county.

How about this: all Bonds but Lazenby came from the British Isles - which is a geographical term, not a political one. I hope.

Er...yes. What RobW said.



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