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National security refers to the requirement to maintain the survival of the nation-state through the use of economic, military and political power and the exercise of diplomacy. Measures taken to ensure national security include: •using diplomacy to rally allies and isolate threats •maintaining effective armed forces •implementing civil defense and emergency preparedness measures (including anti-terrorism legislation) •ensuring the resilience and redundancy of critical infrastructure •using intelligence services to detect and defeat or avoid threats and espionage, and to protect classified information •using counterintelligence services or secret police to protect the nation from internal threats --- Reading, meanwhile, is an activity subsequent to writing - more resigned, more civil, more intellectual. |
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It wouldn't seem to threaten the survival of the nation-state except when said nation-state overreacts to terrorism.
Yet, it kills thousands of people a year, many of them Americans. But it isn't threat in the way Japan was a threat. Or is terrorism the modern threat of fascist imperialism in a new guise? --- Reading, meanwhile, is an activity subsequent to writing - more resigned, more civil, more intellectual. |
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'Terrorism' is a word of so many definitions is is more a one-size-fits-all meme container. In the main sense it currently expresses, it is precisely what you mention:
"It wouldn't seem to threaten the survival of the nation-state except when said nation-state overreacts to terrorism." A powerful goad to stimulate over-bearing, arrogant, ridiculously wealthy, hypocritical, smug, self-deluding, paranoid, massively-armed national entities into charging, no matter how much Brer Rabbit begs them not to, into that thar briar patch. The very act of declaring and fighting a war on terror guarantees our defeat. A HREF="http://9bill.blogspot.com/">Space must flow past the ports like wine from a pitcher |
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I was born in the first half of the 60'ies in a country ruled by a left wing dictatorial government. Later, in the seventies it became a raged wrecko right wing dictature (1969 to 1974) and then things slowly became to get better.
During that time the definition of "terrorism" was: any act that did not complain to the government points of view. By the way, such acts were automagically classified as "stalinist" (fucking serious), communist (very serious), socialist (serious enough for several sessions of torture), subversion of order (you could know for granted that your life, starting by your job, would be screwed). Currently our (Brazilian I mean) government killed two mayors (at least one of them after long torture) and it is not considered "terrorism". The "movimento dos sem terra" invade (and destroy) private property and it is not considered "terrorism". Two Cuban athletes are kidnapped and sent back to Cuba ("that paradise of democracy according to Mr. Chavez and Mr. Lula) and that is not terrorism... The same applies to other nations where people is sent to "secret prisons" (several cases in foreign countries) without any formal charge and that's not considered "terrorism". ---------- Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ??? |
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Oh, I forgot... in the 70'ies many acts of the Brazilian dictature were motivated by "Jewish subversion" and financed by CIA...
---------- Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ??? |
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I am hoping this is not a typo but instead a deliberate neologism, but I love it either way. A HREF="http://9bill.blogspot.com/">Space must flow past the ports like wine from a pitcher |
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More people are killed every year by violent murder, or car accidents than terrorism. Terrorism is not a threat. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ an exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation |
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Automagically: that's very used around here... Especially in those engineering classes where you don't have patience to develop a full demonstration of a theorem... ---------- Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ??? |
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ an exception has been thrown by the target of an invocation |
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Yeah and yippee! I am happy now. It is a Real Word. This is good. A HREF="http://9bill.blogspot.com/">Space must flow past the ports like wine from a pitcher |
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I shan't speculate an answer to the final question but will only comment that revenge is for suckers and Americans are suckers for revenge. A HREF="http://9bill.blogspot.com/">Space must flow past the ports like wine from a pitcher |
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All those questions leave one wanting a goddamned answer.
As far as I'm concerned, I prefer silent vice to ostentatious virtue. -Albert Einstein |
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I agree with the last posts of Clark. Especially the last one.
In the wide sense, terrorism cannot subvert democratic values. When we start accepting censorship, summary legal procedures, secret judgments, secret prisons, "disappeared" people, testimonials obtained through torture, silence through violence, intolerance to different religions, the fear of foreigners and hate to foreigners, then terrorism is successful. Terrorism, like many other acts against Democracy, is a business. Very profitable. Terrorism may be a way for the privileged people to take control of State. In fact, it is the easy way. Hitler took the power pointing out the risks of the "subversive acts" executed by the socialists/communists and of the "Jewish terrorism". Here in Brazil, one of the facts that hurried the end of the dictature happened in 1978. As government was becoming increasingly unpopular and things were peaceful, some generals decided that the best way of "regaining control of situation" was inflicting fear. So they planned to explode the Rio Centro (a convention center in Rio de Janeiro) and to do so they charged two (or more) troops to do the job in a way it could be presented as a "work of communists". The guys prepared a set of "home made" bombs and planted them in the building. Fortunately for most people and disgracefully for them, one of the bombs exploded while they were setting the fuse. Journalists got to the place before the scenario could be set up, the newspapers released the picture before censorship could block it and the rest is history... ---------- Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill ??? |
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Too bad that's not always the case.
As far as I'm concerned, I prefer silent vice to ostentatious virtue. -Albert Einstein |
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I don't have enough time to delve into all of Wallace's questions right now, but I believe that the central problem is that what was hard fought and won three two hundred and thirty plus years ago is now taken for granted and expected On Demand.
We expect that we should both be safe from harm and unilaterally free of impingement of our rights. Further, the questions, while raised, are not done so in a forum where they would purpose change, legislation or election results. In short, they are ignored. --- Reading, meanwhile, is an activity subsequent to writing - more resigned, more civil, more intellectual. |
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I lurve DFW.
His analogy to the car is apt; however, the America of his idea is also the America that requires endless disclosure statements and graphic warnings not to run your hairdryer in the bathtub, and cautions that the filling in a Hot Apple Pie is hot. _____________________________________ ::swoon:: |
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Terrorism is a threat to National Security.
I don't think any terrorist group will ever destroy the United States, that's a job either for the Americans themselves or some theoretical emerging superpower at some point in the future. But I don't think that any campaign of bombings, assassinations or anthrax letters will end the United States. Although fear of them certainly might. In the last seven years we've watched the United States abandon long held values for the illusion of safety. Suddenly it's alright if the government listens in on your phone calls, goes through your mail or takes you into custody indefinitely without having enough evidence to actually charge you. The fact that these actions are, or very recently were, in breach of the law are apparently irrelevant. It's been frightening to watch the United States cast off its disguise and start performing the actions I've read about for years in the open instead of trying to keep them in the shadows. Ten years ago if someone had told me about Guantanamo Bay, Abu Ghraib, the renditions and secret U.S. prisons I would have told them to put down the crack pipe. Now they're taken for granted. The United States has done the unthinkable. It invaded a sovereign nation against the will of most of the world, and played games of misdirection with evidence or outright fabricated it to justify it's conduct. 1,000,000 dead and 4,000,000 in exile from a starting population smaller than Australia. Osama bin Laden has owned us for over half a decade, and we're only just beginning to realize it. Lithos made me do it |
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A little marketing and people will begin to capitalize more on terrorism....viva capitalism.
As far as I'm concerned, I prefer silent vice to ostentatious virtue. -Albert Einstein |
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I think this sentence is unwarrantedly optimistic. A HREF="http://9bill.blogspot.com/">Space must flow past the ports like wine from a pitcher |
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I own A Broom of the System. Should I read that first or buy Infinite Jest and read that first? --- Reading, meanwhile, is an activity subsequent to writing - more resigned, more civil, more intellectual. |
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