Here's a little history of my hot, sweaty, surly, pissy rant the other night.

By Glenn Greenwald, @ Salon.com

It's not pretty, but fecken true.

Wake the fuck up, Amerika, imho.

http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/

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Which part are you incensed about?

What parts are you NOT! incensed about?

Are you mad that the democrats can't get their shit together for a collective assualt? Or just their spinelessness in general to opposing the republicans?

I think you've linked to Greenwald's general blog page, so the top post may not be the one you're talking about.

So which day's post was it?

Ahh...

But I think she mentioned Dodd previously if he is still the subject of the bloggage.

Way back when, Woody Wilson's heavy-handed holier-than-thou, there's-a-war-going-on abrogation of civil rights (along with seriously thrashed foreign policy) made Republican presidents a shoe-in for the next three terms. I mean, Harding (captain vacuous himself) won by a landslide.

I think the current Dems are envisioning a similar electoral environment.

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Way back when, Woody Wilson's heavy-handed holier-than-thou, there's-a-war-going-on abrogation of civil rights (along with seriously thrashed foreign policy) made Republican presidents a shoe-in for the next three terms. I mean, Harding (captain vacuous himself) won by a landslide.

I think the current Dems are envisioning a similar electoral environment.

They were imagining that in 2004 as well, weren't they?

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Originally posted by UberDog:

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Originally posted by kenmeer livermaile:
Way back when, Woody Wilson's heavy-handed holier-than-thou, there's-a-war-going-on abrogation of civil rights (along with seriously thrashed foreign policy) made Republican presidents a shoe-in for the next three terms. I mean, Harding (captain vacuous himself) won by a landslide.

I think the current Dems are envisioning a similar electoral environment.

They were imagining that in 2004 as well, weren't they?

Hardly. Except those who smoked weed with meth. Bush was still a popular player at the time. It was a close race. He had about 47-48% approval rating on that election day.

And Kerry was a yellow dog democrat with an uncanny resemblance to Lester from The Addams Family.

What I meant was that they seemd to think they'd have an easier shot at it... or maybe I just remember the Kerry campaign's weakness as refelctive of the whole party.

How do you turn being a decorated war veteran running against a coked-up AWOL fuck-up into a negative again?

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What I meant was that they seemd to think they'd have an easier shot at it... or maybe I just remember the Kerry campaign's weakness as refelctive of the whole party.

How do you turn being a decorated war veteran running against a coked-up AWOL fuck-up into a negative again?

Overestimation of their appeal to the voting public has been a chronic theme of Dems since '00, for sure.

How did Kerry's vet status become a liability? Or, in more specific terms of query: how did they open him up to something so spurious as the Swift Boaters?

SImple. They made a big deal of it... against a "a coked-up AWOL fuck-up". Widened the field of comparison so there was more leverage from below. Gave Kerry that much farther to fall, and that much more to prove/sustain against attack.

If he'd (I mean,*they*, as in his Dem colleagues) stuck simply with, 'I/he was in Nam. I've/he's been to war', the burden would have been entirely on that cokehead AWOL fuckup.

It would be like Gibson going against Clancy in an election for better/more significant author regarding po-mo politics/economics and culture as affected by tech, and Gibson, rather than saying, 'Well, I have published 8 novels to date where the underlying themes are about just that', had said, 'Dammit! I coined the word 'cyberspace'! And 'matrix'! I practically invented Al Gore!'

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Originally posted by Bravus:
I think you've linked to Greenwald's general blog page, so the top post may not be the one you're talking about.

So which day's post was it?

Friday December 21, 2007 04:28 EST, Bravus.

Ah, ta. Yes, my reaction would be similarly outraged and angry except that (a) I'm more powerless than ever to do anything about it - y'all need to get it sorted over there and (b) it's too damn exhausting to maintain the outrage after 7 years of the Bush administration. I know it's important to, but ffs, nothing changes. The Dems also seem to have an astonishing ability to cede the ground for every battle so they'll lose - they need to read their George Lakoff.

George Lakoff? Give me your sites ref, please.

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y'all need to get it sorted over there and (b) it's too damn exhausting to maintain the outrage after 7 years of the Bush administration.

(a)No shit we've got to get this sorted out! Wake up, Amerika!
(b)And no, IT'S NOT TOO DAMN EXHAUSTING [yet] to maintain the outrage after 7 years of Bush, over here, though it has rendered me trollish. feh!

I am actually a sweet person. I usually have some modicum of patience. I even love humor. That I am posting like this just shows me how crazy-making the U.S. is, for me.
Please ignore if you can't relate and let this thread die if need be.

Now researching passports in my near future.

Any recommended destinations?

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George Lakoff? Give me your sites ref, please.

duh.google. Sunday.

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Originally posted by Anabel:
Now researching passports in my near future.

Any recommended destinations?

We have a spare room if you need it!

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Originally posted by Anabel:Now researching passports in my near future.

Any recommended destinations?

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Originally posted by Anabel:Now researching passports in my near future.

Any recommended destinations?

Keep your hokey religious beliefs out of this, ube. They get in the way of mine:



Annabel: if you think this is bad, look at America during/after WWI. Took a Depression to shake our heads from our tushies.