I don't understand this. Somali pirates have taken some 36 ships this year. Why isn't there military interdiction going on? Why didn't the Russians kill these fuckers? I just don't get it, especially the Russians, they let a school full of hostages get killed by Chechens when they went in to shoot them the fuck up. But pirates are given a pass?

What's the risks of taking their shit back? Is it just not worth the cost? why didn't the US Navy get involved in this last one?

Split, you should know a bit about this, WTF is going on?

Somalia is trying to get them classified as "Terrorists^tm as we speak. Apparently, one needs a religion in order to be a terrorist.

"And so, once they get to a point where they can board, it becomes very difficult to get them off, because, clearly, now they hold hostages.

"The question then becomes, well, what do you do about the hostages? And that's where the standoff is.

Which is why you let the Russians deal with it, or the Israeli's.

This would make a cool movie Get Jerry Bruckhimer on the phone!

oh wait..

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Originally posted by Mr_Cyberpunk:
This would make a cool movie Get Jerry Bruckhimer on the phone!

oh wait..

That should go in the movies that don't need to be made thread.

Bruckheimer couldn't write this with a bible of blotter and a dumptruck full of meth,

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Nato and other international warships have increased patrols around northern Somalia to try to deter the heavily armed Somali pirate gangs who have seriously disrupted one of the world busiest shipping lanes. The pirates are holding about a dozen vessels hostage and more than 200 foreign crew. They are believed to have already netted more than £20m in ransoms this year.

From The Guardian.

Apparently, the government has decided to start paying attention to legalities.

How fucking convenient.

Gotta admit, they make AL Queda look like a troop of amatures.

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Originally posted by Boogerhead:
Bruckheimer couldn't write this with a bible of blotter and a dumptruck full of meth,

Are you, good sir, implying that Bruckheimer can, under any circumstances, write?

No.
No, I am not.

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I don't understand this. Somali pirates have taken some 36 ships this year. Why isn't there military interdiction going on?

Live hostages, dude. Lotsa live hostages.

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I just don't get it, especially the Russians, they let a school full of hostages get killed by Chechens when they went in to shoot them the fuck up. But pirates are given a pass?

That one didn't work out so well for Russian National Pride. Also, a lot of these hostages are not Russian.

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Originally posted by UberDog:

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Originally posted by Mr_Cyberpunk:
This would make a cool movie Get Jerry Bruckhimer on the phone!

oh wait..

That should go in the movies that don't need to be made thread.

But that would be Pointless.

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a bible of blotter and a dumptruck full of meth

Look! Down in the alley! It's a blog title! A CIA operation! It's a Bruckheimer set!

Ha! Saudi's foreign minister said he hopes that "the international community" would do more to combat piracy.

"Because we're sure as fuck not gonna do it. There are far too many...'costs' associated with piracy. You know. Could be bad."

All this talk of the difficulty of catching the pirates at sea is nonsense and they know it. Since the days of Pompey the Great the way to get rid of pirates is to seize their land bases. No matter where they raid, they have to come back to land to rearm, refuel, negotiate and, above all, party. Back in the yo-ho-ho days both of the most successful pirates, Blackbeard and Bart Roberts (who I fervently hope is an ancestor) were caught inshore, not on the high seas.

Problem is, nobody wants to undertake the messy business of obliterating the Somali pirate bases. Lots of collateral damage, you know. The Russians are the best bet. They're not real politically correct and they don't worry about hurting peoples' feelings. Send in a carrier and a few Spetznaz to go in and shoot the wounded - it could be done. And they want to be taken seriously again. The US first showed its naval chops against the Barbary pirates.

Well, again, I think it's the international nature of the collateral damage invading their base(s) would entail that provides the most hindrance.

I think international cooperation in this instance requires naval resources amassed immediately after a group ransom/release is arranged.

Said latter is not in the pirate's interests and they are loath to accept such. So it might require an exorbitant ransom figure, even in the hundreds of millions, and lord knows what kind of leveraged chicanery, to create a situation where an international body of death-and-destruction can be applied.

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My father works for Vela and used to sail in their fleet before getting a desk job.

I really hope all the crew make it out safe.

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a bible of blotter and a dumptruck full of meth

Look! Down in the alley! It's a blog title! A CIA operation! It's a Bruckheimer set!

Weapons-laundering is the new Iran-Contra