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Is anybody know about the "Neuromancer Film"'s information? Is it would be making to "Film"?
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There is no movie in the works. Read the FAQ!
quote: But heck, let's not let that stop us speculating about the best director/cast/catering service. |
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Ingmar Bergman/Young Marlon Brando, James Dean, Sir John Houseman, and Natalie Wood/Nobu-White Castle joint venture.
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Director - Stanley Kubrick or Chris Cunningham
Burning Chrome Automatic Jack - Vin Diesel Miles - Mario Van Peebles Rikki- Christina Ricci Bobby Quine - Jake Busey (Starship Troopers, Tomcats) Finn- Iggy Pop Neuromancer Case - Jonny Lee Miller (Trainspotting, Hackers) Molly Ratz Riviera - Edward Norton Deane - Malcom MacDowel Finn - Iggy Pop Dixie Flatline Armitage - Dolph Lundgren Hideo - John Lone (he played Kenji in the Hunted) 3 Jane- Ashpool - Miguel Ferrer Maelcum Gerald Chin - Danny DeVito Count Zero Bobby Newmark - Tobey Maguire Angie Mitchell - Kirsten Dunst Turner - Jason Statham (The Transporter) Marly - Denise Richards Josef Virek - Conroy - Christopher Lambert Two-A-Day - Mekhi Phifer(ER, Clockers) Leon - Joe Pantoliano (Matrix) Jammer - Jackie - Angela Bassett (Strange Days Rhea - Lauryn Hill Paco - Heath Ledger Beauvoir - Samuel L. Jackson Lucas - Don Cheadle (Picket Finces) Alain - Paul Verhoeven (Starship Troopers) Wigan Ludgate Mona Lisa Overdrive Mona- Kirsten Dunst Bobby Newmark - Tobey Maguire Angie Mitchell - Kirsten Dunst Little Bird - Matthew Lillard (SLC Punk!, Thirteen Ghost) Slick Henery - Paul Walker (The fast and the Furious) Kumiko - Kanaka - Petal - Sean Bean (Lord of the Rings, Ronin) Swan - Matt Schulze (Transporter) Cherry Chesterfield - Julia Stiles (10 things I hate about You, O) Gentry - Tick - Colin - Billy Boyd (Lord of the Rings) Eddy - Vince Vaughn (Swingers, Old School) Gerald Chin - Danny DeVito Porphyre - Taye Diggs (Chicago Equilibrium) Hilton Swift - Christian Bale (Equilibrium) Prior- Finn- Iggy Pop |
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mmmm...
i think i would like to see the Olsen twins as Molly.. because there would HAVE to be a nude scene. nuff' said Save yourself... no one else matters anyway... ----------------------------- |
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Roger Corman to direct.
Rodney Dangerfield as Case. RuPaul as Molly. James Gandolfini as Armitage. Ali G as Lupus Yonderboy. The voice of James Earl Jones as Dixie. Ed Begley Jr as Maelcum. Michael Richards as Peter Riviera. Star Jones as 3Jane. -------------- Debs/Goldman '08! |
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i don't see Hulk Hogan anywhere in that list
Save yourself... no one else matters anyway... ----------------------------- |
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Count Zero:
Bobby: Elijah Wood Turner: Thomas Jane Marly: Helena Bonham Carter Virek: Anthony Hopkins Beavouir: Delroy Lindo Lucas: Michael Clarke Duncan Angie: Anna Paquin Music by Rob D |
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quote: Ashpool: Hulk Hogan. -------------- Debs/Goldman '08! |
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I think the Sprawl Trilogy (Neuromancer,Count Zero, and Monalisa Overdrive) will be Awesome If adapted by Shinchiro Wantanabe! Thats the dude who created the "Cowboy Bebop" series. There are just so many similarities between them. That I suspect his inspiration for the Anime must have been from the Sprawl series.
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The worst part of it is that there *can't* be a Neuromancer film and no way will there be a Sprawl trilogy, despite how awesome it would be... The Matrix and it's rather dodgy sequels saw to that. The comparisons would be too many for anyone not familiar with Gibson's material and that would murder the whole project. I personally think the Wachowski's should be stoned for this, who's with me?
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People keep saying that The Matrix ripped off Neuromancer. And everybody seems to accept it. On the basis of having seen the original The Matrix only, I don't see it myself.
Where IS this relationship with Gibson's work? |
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A june,2003 issue of a movie magazine called "Empire" lists the following as some of the inspirations for the Wachowski's Matrix:
1. Fist of Legend 2. Ghost in the shell 3. Hard Boiled 4. Neoromancer 5. Simulacra and Simulation I think its a bit too harsh to let a Mob with rocks have their way with the Wachowskis. I personally love the Matrix trilogy! |
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quote: Couple of edits. Isn't Bobby like 13 in CZ? Elijah would be way too old. Of course, I think your choice of Anthony Hopkins as Virek is inspired (though he basically played similar in Freejack »» "Forget infinity. I've got books waiting for me to read them." — colin »»"Speculative novels of last Tuesday." — William Gibson |
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Would Madchen Amick be okay as Molly, anyone?
>>will be Awesome If adapted by Shinchiro Wantanabe! Might be interesting to find out his ideas?... >>of it is that there *can't* be a Neuromancer film and I don't believe it. I think the matrix allows a higher quality film to be made than might otherwise have been the case. I ca'n't exactly bring the story of Neuromancer to mind, but surely Count Zero or Mona Lisa Overdrive could be done stand-alone as a pretty solid movie. Ne? Like, Mona Lisa first, in case a second one wasn't forthcoming? >> The comparisons would be too many for anyone no List some? What would Will Smith look like as bird? No, wait. Little Bird's a white racist... -_-; Though, if Meryl can play a Rabbi... Though maybe not. >>Little Bird - Matthew Lillard (SLC Punk!, Thirteen Ghost) I like it, but I imagined bird as a little cuter than that? How cute could Lillard be? Has bird a cuteness to him, even? Who knows why I thought/think of him as that... |
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Bobby is 18 or 19 years old, he would 16 at the youngest. You might be thinking of the part when booby is in his bedroom and the hologram project turns on in chapter 6 .
"Bobby remembered being thirteen and in love with Brandi, the one with the blue rubber pants. Now he valued the projections mainly for the illusion of space they could provide in the makeshift bedroom." |
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>>Might be interesting to find out his ideas?...
Well basically the idea for Shinchiro's Watanabe's "Cowboy Bebop" is a strong character driving story about a group of bounty hunters. But the story itself does't share alot of similarity to the sprawl series. Its really the way the story is conveyed! It shares such a close affinity to the sprawl series, for example its based late in the future (like late 21'st century), The technological advances of the presented future is really similar to the sprawl series, It has a real strong dystopian feel to it, And it also has this very realistic melancholy quality to it Were your protagonist is not your typical "save the day" good guy here. He's almost opposite instead, but you feel a huge amount of empathy towards him. >>There can't be a Neuromancer film? Hell yeah there can! The only way Matrix has hindered the possibiity is with the title. Which in no way plays that big a role really. Infact the matrix in the sprawl to my thinking is just another term for cyber space, the medium in which A.I.'s like Wintermute can do what they do so well (loved it when wintermute imulated the personality of THE FIN). The Matrix is a movie in which the magic lies greatly on its concept. But the sprawl series doesn't only have the Magic in its concept but the real good stuff is in its Character development and interaction! Man all this talk got me so hyped up, think we should start mass e-mailing William G. and the big execs in DreamWorks. C'man we can do it people |
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first off, I think I should direct the neuromancer film, but that's just me...
as far as cast, well... I hate to say it, but Case would probably be a pretty easy make, there's not much to him beyond the whole drugs and violent depression. He could be played by any number of actors. I think the most interesting part would be Armitage. That would require the most flexible actor. He has to go from being so calm and cool as to seem totally emotionless, to turning into this PTS-ridden, violent, crazy wreck of a man. I'm thinking maybe Gary Oldman. The Finn would have to be Steve Buscemi, hands down. The first time I read that book, I thought of hi8m in the Finn's role, before I even starting casting it. It was just automatic. Molly, well, I want to put Eliza Dushku in it, but that's with me directing it, and I may have ulterior motives... Anyway, I noticed a mention of the Olsen twins, and I thought that was interesting, because I was thinking of one of them to play 3Jane. Riviera would have to be someone pretty. I wanna say Ryan Philippe, for some reason, I think from having a friend of mine force me to watch Cruel Intentions like seven times a day for almost a month. I sort of pictured Deane as that one old asian guy who shows up in so many random places. I can't remember his name, but he was the bad guy in Big Trouble in Little China. Is this too long for a post? I'm kind of new to this sort of thing. |
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Actually, to be honesty, I have a sneaking suspicion that the bigger reason for there not being a Neuromancer film yet lies in an area that people haven't really touched on too much.
I mean, did anyone see Johnny Mnemonic or New Rose Hotel? Anyway, I was flipping through my copy of Burning Chrome a few days ago, and it occured to me that the story Dogfight (co-written with Michael Swanwick) could make a really good movie. And I've often thought about developing Fragments of a Hologram Rose into a shoert film just for kicks, and maybe mail it to Mr. Gibson and see what he thinks. The real problem I've found is the ASP sequences, They did something similar in the movie Starnge Days, and from the commentary I gathered that it's a ridiculously complicated procedure, if you intend to do it right. Anyway, I was thinking about that one while I was speculating on a Neuromancer film, thinking about the matrix, and how cheesy it would look if it looked like it did Johnny Mnemonic (it looked cool back then, but then I was like twelve and the technology was still kind of new, mind I liked the movie Hackers back then, too). And I was trying to think of a way to do that, as well as to make the whole Simstim thing easier to pull off. And then I was watching Kill Bill, and I realized that it could animated very easily, probably cheaply, and it would be kind of interesting to see how people interpreted it. I thought it would be neat to at least do the scenes on the beach with Rio in animation. Not necesarrily anime, but something to that effect. Anyway, I was just wondering if I was the only one who thinks this would be a good idea. At least, I think that's what I was thinking, somewhere along the lines of this post. |
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Oh, and while I'm here I might as well mention that Shinichiro Watanabe would do an amazing job of it. I think part of the reason why I like Cowboy Bebop so much has to do with my earlier experiences with Gibson. And he is one of the mlost amazing directors I've ever seen, in any format.
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